From cbradney at scribus.info  Tue Nov  1 10:53:07 2011
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:53:07 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] welding feature
In-Reply-To: <4EAE9DE8.3000407@xox.ch>
References: <201110311329.57444.czarek@oferuje.pl> <4EAE9DE8.3000407@xox.ch>
Message-ID: <4EAFCF93.70507@scribus.info>

On 10/31/11 2:08 PM, a.l.e wrote:
> hi cezary,
>> In my approach welding is hierarchical - one item is master and second is
>> slave (master can have few slaves items, each slave can be master for others
>> items). It was designed for behaviour of welded items when size of one of them
>> is changed.
>>
> i have not tested any of the two patches, yet but i agree that we probably need a way for defining a
> master/slave behavior...
> 
> other behaviors may also be good for certain cases, but most of the time, one will probably want a
> reference to the master...
> 
> if i have a sidenote or a footnote, i will probably want the notes to follow the resizings and
> movements of the main frame but i want to be free to move the slave ones without affecting the
> master one...
> (well, i wonder if one should be able to move a slave frame at all... or if its definition is
> logical only (top left is 2 cm below bottom left of the current frame...))
> 
> 
> just my daily two cents...
> 
> 

See if revision 16944 helps/changes things.. Franz just committed it

Craig


From dbolack at electricmulch.com  Tue Nov  1 15:26:17 2011
From: dbolack at electricmulch.com (David Bolack)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:26:17 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
In-Reply-To: <10656716.p3R4qKByvP@czarek>
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On 10/20/2011 08:59 AM, Czarek wrote:
>> pre-made frame groups
>
> I dont think that this feature will be so often used.
> Better focus on caption frames and footnotes frames (maybe other such auto-
> frames).

I would use this on every book I have laid out in the past and any going 
forward.

So long as Welds can be saved into Master pages, it should be fine.




From louis.desjardins at gmail.com  Tue Nov  1 15:29:40 2011
From: louis.desjardins at gmail.com (Louis Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:29:40 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
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2011/11/1 David Bolack <dbolack at electricmulch.com>

> On 10/20/2011 08:59 AM, Czarek wrote:
>
>> pre-made frame groups
>>>
>>
>> I dont think that this feature will be so often used.
>> Better focus on caption frames and footnotes frames (maybe other such
>> auto-
>> frames).
>>
>
> I would use this on every book I have laid out in the past and any going
> forward.
>
> So long as Welds can be saved into Master pages, it should be fine.


But don?t forget that Master Pages cannot hold empty text or image frames
so you can put content in them afterwards.

Louis

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From dbolack at electricmulch.com  Tue Nov  1 15:38:04 2011
From: dbolack at electricmulch.com (David Bolack)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:38:04 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
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On 11/01/2011 10:29 AM, Louis Desjardins wrote:

> But don?t forget that Master Pages cannot hold empty text or image
> frames so you can put content in them afterwards.

Something that needs to be fixed. :)



From ale.comp_06 at xox.ch  Tue Nov  1 16:28:13 2011
From: ale.comp_06 at xox.ch (a.l.e)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:28:13 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
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hi

>
>> But don?t forget that Master Pages cannot hold empty text or image
>> frames so you can put content in them afterwards.
>
> Something that needs to be fixed. :)

when you're a hammer everyting looks like a nail...

i agree that scribus should improve some tools related to this topic, 
but i'm convinced that there are better ways of solving this problem 
than making the items on the master page editable:

- frame styles (planed)
- scrapbook (90% there; must be easier to share with a .sla file)
- symbols (linked scrapbook elements; implemented in 1.5svn)
- multiple insert (90% ok in 1.4; should be possible to build upon the 
selection)

... imo, all them together are better than editable items on the master 
page...

ciao
a.l.e




From cbradney at scribus.info  Tue Nov  1 16:33:47 2011
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:33:47 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
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On 11/1/11 5:28 PM, a.l.e wrote:
> hi
> 
>>
>>> But don?t forget that Master Pages cannot hold empty text or image
>>> frames so you can put content in them afterwards.
>>
>> Something that needs to be fixed. :)
> 
> when you're a hammer everyting looks like a nail...
> 
> i agree that scribus should improve some tools related to this topic, but i'm convinced that there
> are better ways of solving this problem than making the items on the master page editable:
> 
> - frame styles (planed)
> - scrapbook (90% there; must be easier to share with a .sla file)
> - symbols (linked scrapbook elements; implemented in 1.5svn)
> - multiple insert (90% ok in 1.4; should be possible to build upon the selection)
> 
> ... imo, all them together are better than editable items on the master page...
> 


That won't get fixed in 1.5.0, and I am about to say the rest of the above list won't either that is
not already in 1.5.0svn.

I will be approaching the team to declare a feature freeze on 1.5.0 soon - or it will take *forever*
to stabilise like 1.4.0 has. 1.6.0 will be 5+ years away if 1.5.0 isn't locked down soon.

Craig


From louis.desjardins at gmail.com  Tue Nov  1 16:53:07 2011
From: louis.desjardins at gmail.com (Louis Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 12:53:07 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
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2011/11/1 Craig Bradney <cbradney at scribus.info>

> On 11/1/11 5:28 PM, a.l.e wrote:
> > hi
> >
> >>
> >>> But don?t forget that Master Pages cannot hold empty text or image
> >>> frames so you can put content in them afterwards.
> >>
> >> Something that needs to be fixed. :)
> >
> > when you're a hammer everyting looks like a nail...
> >
> > i agree that scribus should improve some tools related to this topic,
> but i'm convinced that there
> > are better ways of solving this problem than making the items on the
> master page editable:
> >
> > - frame styles (planed)
> > - scrapbook (90% there; must be easier to share with a .sla file)
> > - symbols (linked scrapbook elements; implemented in 1.5svn)
> > - multiple insert (90% ok in 1.4; should be possible to build upon the
> selection)
> >
> > ... imo, all them together are better than editable items on the master
> page...
> >
>
>
> That won't get fixed in 1.5.0, and I am about to say the rest of the above
> list won't either that is
> not already in 1.5.0svn.
>
> I will be approaching the team to declare a feature freeze on 1.5.0 soon -
> or it will take *forever*
> to stabilise like 1.4.0 has. 1.6.0 will be 5+ years away if 1.5.0 isn't
> locked down soon.
>

I am ok with most of this statement. However, before locking, we might as
well review the whole thing and see what would be worth introducing into
1.5. But yes, freezing the features so we can move forward at a faster pace
is something I am more than comfortable with. This doesn?t mean the
development is stopped, it means we have a plan to release stable versions
more often. Who would complain? :-)

Louis

>
> Craig
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From cbradney at scribus.info  Tue Nov  1 16:59:29 2011
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:59:29 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
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On 11/1/11 5:53 PM, Louis Desjardins wrote:
> 2011/11/1 Craig Bradney <cbradney at scribus.info <mailto:cbradney at scribus.info>>
> 
>     On 11/1/11 5:28 PM, a.l.e wrote:
>     > hi
>     >
>     >>
>     >>> But don?t forget that Master Pages cannot hold empty text or image
>     >>> frames so you can put content in them afterwards.
>     >>
>     >> Something that needs to be fixed. :)
>     >
>     > when you're a hammer everyting looks like a nail...
>     >
>     > i agree that scribus should improve some tools related to this topic, but i'm convinced that there
>     > are better ways of solving this problem than making the items on the master page editable:
>     >
>     > - frame styles (planed)
>     > - scrapbook (90% there; must be easier to share with a .sla file)
>     > - symbols (linked scrapbook elements; implemented in 1.5svn)
>     > - multiple insert (90% ok in 1.4; should be possible to build upon the selection)
>     >
>     > ... imo, all them together are better than editable items on the master page...
>     >
> 
> 
>     That won't get fixed in 1.5.0, and I am about to say the rest of the above list won't either that is
>     not already in 1.5.0svn.
> 
>     I will be approaching the team to declare a feature freeze on 1.5.0 soon - or it will take *forever*
>     to stabilise like 1.4.0 has. 1.6.0 will be 5+ years away if 1.5.0 isn't locked down soon.
> 
> 
> I am ok with most of this statement. However, before locking, we might as well review the whole
> thing and see what would be worth introducing into 1.5. But yes, freezing the features so we can
> move forward at a faster pace is something I am more than comfortable with. This doesn?t mean the
> development is stopped, it means we have a plan to release stable versions more often. Who would
> complain? :-)
> 

What it means is that all development work would be devoted to bug fixes, feature completion (eg
tables from gsoc needs finishing, as well as many other things) and general release preparation.

Craig


From gpittman at iglou.com  Tue Nov  1 17:16:26 2011
From: gpittman at iglou.com (Gregory Pittman)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:16:26 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
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I just tried to svn up, etc. and got a compile error at the target 
importps point...

/home/gregp/development/Scribus150/scribus/plugins/import/ps/importps.cpp:264:51: 
error: ?class PageItem? has no member named ?ItemNr?

is it worth nuking my directory and co from scratch?

Greg


From cbradney at scribus.info  Tue Nov  1 17:20:29 2011
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:20:29 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
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On 11/1/11 6:16 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> I just tried to svn up, etc. and got a compile error at the target importps point...
> 
> /home/gregp/development/Scribus150/scribus/plugins/import/ps/importps.cpp:264:51: error: ?class
> PageItem? has no member named ?ItemNr?
> 
> is it worth nuking my directory and co from scratch?

No, Franz removed ItemNr today but must have Poppler installed and his build doesn't see that code.

Franz, can you please review this?

thanks
Craig


From Franz.Schmid at altmuehlnet.de  Tue Nov  1 18:30:41 2011
From: Franz.Schmid at altmuehlnet.de (Franz Schmid)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:30:41 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
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Am 01.11.2011 18:20, schrieb Craig Bradney:
> On 11/1/11 6:16 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>> I just tried to svn up, etc. and got a compile error at the target importps point...
>>
>> /home/gregp/development/Scribus150/scribus/plugins/import/ps/importps.cpp:264:51: error: ?class
>> PageItem? has no member named ?ItemNr?
>>
>> is it worth nuking my directory and co from scratch?
> 
> No, Franz removed ItemNr today but must have Poppler installed and his build doesn't see that code.
> 
> Franz, can you please review this?
Just committed a fix for this, and yes, i have Poppler installed.

Greetings,
Franz


From cbradney at scribus.info  Tue Nov  1 18:35:12 2011
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:35:12 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
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On 11/1/11 7:30 PM, Franz Schmid wrote:
> Am 01.11.2011 18:20, schrieb Craig Bradney:
>> On 11/1/11 6:16 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>>> I just tried to svn up, etc. and got a compile error at the target importps point...
>>>
>>> /home/gregp/development/Scribus150/scribus/plugins/import/ps/importps.cpp:264:51: error: ?class
>>> PageItem? has no member named ?ItemNr?
>>>
>>> is it worth nuking my directory and co from scratch?
>>
>> No, Franz removed ItemNr today but must have Poppler installed and his build doesn't see that code.
>>
>> Franz, can you please review this?
> Just committed a fix for this, and yes, i have Poppler installed.
> 
> Greetings,
> Franz
> 

Thanks Franz! :)


From gpittman at iglou.com  Thu Nov  3 01:53:49 2011
From: gpittman at iglou.com (Gregory Pittman)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:53:49 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] feature of welding page items
In-Reply-To: <4EB03BE0.3080407@scribus.info>
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On 11/01/2011 02:35 PM, Craig Bradney wrote:
> On 11/1/11 7:30 PM, Franz Schmid wrote:
>> Am 01.11.2011 18:20, schrieb Craig Bradney:
>>> On 11/1/11 6:16 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>>>> I just tried to svn up, etc. and got a compile error at the target importps point...
>>>>
>>>> /home/gregp/development/Scribus150/scribus/plugins/import/ps/importps.cpp:264:51: error: ?class
>>>> PageItem? has no member named ?ItemNr?
>>>>
>>>> is it worth nuking my directory and co from scratch?
>>>
>>> No, Franz removed ItemNr today but must have Poppler installed and his build doesn't see that code.
>>>
>>> Franz, can you please review this?
>> Just committed a fix for this, and yes, i have Poppler installed.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Franz
>>
>
> Thanks Franz! :)

Just trying this out now.

1. I'm not seeing what moving the weld point does.
2. It might be nice that when you are in Edit Weld Item mode, Move 
Object, that you could use the XYZ tab to move that selected object 
only. Right now the whole welded unit moves.
3. If you save to Scrapbook, only the selected part goes to the 
Scrapbook, maybe the welded unit should go together.

Greg


From brianjrohan at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 17:41:47 2011
From: brianjrohan at gmail.com (Brian Rohan)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:41:47 -0700
Subject: [scribus-dev] RC6 Ubuntu 11.10 Installation isues
Message-ID: <CA+ZGUVijq6Xf80vDuFhD5+8GsDtffzRs7QUX_UwXE0P=cxJbAA@mail.gmail.com>

I have posted in the Scribus forums, and it was suggested that I post to
this dev email group. I am having issues installing RC6 in Ubuntu 11.10. I
copied what I pasted into the forums below:

I have been using Scribus on Windoze for quite some time now, and my files
are saved as RC5. I am switching to Ubuntu 11.10, and trying to install
RC6, so I may open my files made in Windoze RC5.  When I add the Repository
to Ubuntu Software Center I can only get RC2, not a help in my situation.
 I am therefore trying to install RC6 from the .tar.bz2 download.  I have
unpackaged the file in /home/username/Scribusinstall  I have also made
another directory there called builddir.  I opened the Install4 file and
was able to install all of the debian files except for python2.3-dev which
I could not find, but have python-dev, and I was not able to find
libcupsys2-dev. When I try command line to get libcupsys2-dev I get the
message "Note, selecting 'libcups2-dev' instead of 'libcupsys2-dev'"

All of this to say when I go into the builddir and try to cmake scribus I
get the following errors:


CMake Error at styles/CMakeLists.txt:20 (QT4_WRAP_CPP):
  Unknown CMake command "QT4_WRAP_CPP".


CMake Warning (dev) in CMakeLists.txt:
  No cmake_minimum_required command is present.  A line of code such as

    cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.8)

  should be added at the top of the file.  The version specified may be
lower
  if you wish to support older CMake versions for this project.  For more
  information run "cmake --help-policy CMP0000".
This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.

-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!






I then installed Synaptic package manager, installed the key, and can see
RC6 in available packages in Synaptic. When I try to install via Synaptic,
I get an exclamation point in the box, when I proceed it says Fix Broken
Packaged First. When I go to Edit Fix Broken Packages I get the following:

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused
by held packages.
E: Unable to correct dependencies
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused
by held packages.
E: Unable to correct dependen

When I then try to install via terminal I get the following:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 scribus-ng : Depends: libaspell15 (>= 0.60.7~20110707) but 0.60.6-6 is to
be installed
              Recommends: icc-profiles but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.


I do have libaspell15 .60.6-6 installed already. I do not see .60.7 via
Ubuntu Software Center or in Synaptic.  I did download libaspell15_0.6.7~
but when I click open and open it in Ubuntu Software Center, it says it
will break dependencies, and does not install.

Any suggestions for trying to install this way, or manually?





 Persisting Without Exception
           *I Get it Done!*
    *Brian J. Rohan  DTM*
www.AdvoCare.com/08052009
 The Northwest's Elite Nutrition
               805-876-4262
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From cbradney at zip.com.au  Thu Nov  3 18:35:31 2011
From: cbradney at zip.com.au (Craig Bradney)
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:35:31 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] RC6 Ubuntu 11.10 Installation isues
In-Reply-To: <CA+ZGUVijq6Xf80vDuFhD5+8GsDtffzRs7QUX_UwXE0P=cxJbAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+ZGUVijq6Xf80vDuFhD5+8GsDtffzRs7QUX_UwXE0P=cxJbAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4EB2DEF3.9080901@zip.com.au>

On 11/3/11 6:41 PM, Brian Rohan wrote:
>
> I have posted in the Scribus forums, and it was suggested that I post to this dev email group. I
> am having issues installing RC6 in Ubuntu 11.10. I copied what I pasted into the forums below:
>
> I have been using Scribus on Windoze for quite some time now, and my files are saved as RC5. I am
> switching to Ubuntu 11.10, and trying to install RC6, so I may open my files made in Windoze RC5.
>  When I add the Repository to Ubuntu Software Center I can only get RC2, not a help in my
> situation.  I am therefore trying to install RC6 from the .tar.bz2 download.  I have unpackaged
> the file in /home/username/Scribusinstall  I have also made another directory there called
> builddir.  I opened the Install4 file and was able to install all of the debian files except for
> python2.3-dev which I could not find, but have python-dev, and I was not able to find
> libcupsys2-dev. When I try command line to get libcupsys2-dev I get the message "Note, selecting
> 'libcups2-dev' instead of 'libcupsys2-dev'"
>
> All of this to say when I go into the builddir and try to cmake scribus I get the following errors:
>
>
> CMake Error at styles/CMakeLists.txt:20 (QT4_WRAP_CPP):
>   Unknown CMake command "QT4_WRAP_CPP".
>
>
> CMake Warning (dev) in CMakeLists.txt:
>   No cmake_minimum_required command is present.  A line of code such as
>
>     cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.8)
>
>   should be added at the top of the file.  The version specified may be lower
>   if you wish to support older CMake versions for this project.  For more
>   information run "cmake --help-policy CMP0000".
> This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.
>
> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> I then installed Synaptic package manager, installed the key, and can see RC6 in available
> packages in Synaptic. When I try to install via Synaptic, I get an exclamation point in the box,
> when I proceed it says Fix Broken Packaged First. When I go to Edit Fix Broken Packages I get the
> following:
>
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
> E: Unable to correct dependencies
> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
> E: Unable to correct dependen
>
> When I then try to install via terminal I get the following:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  scribus-ng : Depends: libaspell15 (>= 0.60.7~20110707) but 0.60.6-6 is to be installed
>               Recommends: icc-profiles but it is not going to be installed
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>
>
> I do have libaspell15 .60.6-6 installed already. I do not see .60.7 via Ubuntu Software Center or
> in Synaptic.  I did download libaspell15_0.6.7~ but when I click open and open it in Ubuntu
> Software Center, it says it will break dependencies, and does not install.
>
> Any suggestions for trying to install this way, or manually?
>
>
>

Hi

Please follow these instructions to add our repository:

http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Debian

thanks
Craig
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From brianjrohan at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 18:50:12 2011
From: brianjrohan at gmail.com (Brian Rohan)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:50:12 -0700
Subject: [scribus-dev] RC6 Ubuntu 11.10 Installation isues
In-Reply-To: <4EB2DEF3.9080901@zip.com.au>
References: <CA+ZGUVijq6Xf80vDuFhD5+8GsDtffzRs7QUX_UwXE0P=cxJbAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EB2DEF3.9080901@zip.com.au>
Message-ID: <CA+ZGUViEaK-i6XstR58tnajx-VEmY1y177VgfTpTw0xYK_Q7yg@mail.gmail.com>

I did try to install the repository in the Ubuntu Software Center, that is
what gave me the old RC2 as the dev branch.  I then used Synaptic, which
showed me the RC6 version, but gave me errors within Synaptic and would not
allow the install.





 Persisting Without Exception
           *I Get it Done!*
    *Brian J. Rohan  DTM*
www.AdvoCare.com/08052009
 The Northwest's Elite Nutrition
               805-876-4262



2011/11/3 Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>

>  On 11/3/11 6:41 PM, Brian Rohan wrote:
>
>
>  I have posted in the Scribus forums, and it was suggested that I post to
> this dev email group. I am having issues installing RC6 in Ubuntu 11.10. I
> copied what I pasted into the forums below:
>
>  I have been using Scribus on Windoze for quite some time now, and my
> files are saved as RC5. I am switching to Ubuntu 11.10, and trying to
> install RC6, so I may open my files made in Windoze RC5.  When I add the
> Repository to Ubuntu Software Center I can only get RC2, not a help in my
> situation.  I am therefore trying to install RC6 from the .tar.bz2
> download.  I have unpackaged the file in /home/username/Scribusinstall  I
> have also made another directory there called builddir.  I opened the
> Install4 file and was able to install all of the debian files except for
> python2.3-dev which I could not find, but have python-dev, and I was not
> able to find libcupsys2-dev. When I try command line to get libcupsys2-dev
> I get the message "Note, selecting 'libcups2-dev' instead of
> 'libcupsys2-dev'"
>
> All of this to say when I go into the builddir and try to cmake scribus I
> get the following errors:
>
>
> CMake Error at styles/CMakeLists.txt:20 (QT4_WRAP_CPP):
>   Unknown CMake command "QT4_WRAP_CPP".
>
>
> CMake Warning (dev) in CMakeLists.txt:
>   No cmake_minimum_required command is present.  A line of code such as
>
>     cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.8)
>
>   should be added at the top of the file.  The version specified may be
> lower
>   if you wish to support older CMake versions for this project.  For more
>   information run "cmake --help-policy CMP0000".
> This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.
>
> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I then installed Synaptic package manager, installed the key, and can see
> RC6 in available packages in Synaptic. When I try to install via Synaptic,
> I get an exclamation point in the box, when I proceed it says Fix Broken
> Packaged First. When I go to Edit Fix Broken Packages I get the following:
>
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused
> by held packages.
> E: Unable to correct dependencies
> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused
> by held packages.
> E: Unable to correct dependen
>
> When I then try to install via terminal I get the following:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  scribus-ng : Depends: libaspell15 (>= 0.60.7~20110707) but 0.60.6-6 is to
> be installed
>               Recommends: icc-profiles but it is not going to be installed
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>
>
> I do have libaspell15 .60.6-6 installed already. I do not see .60.7 via
> Ubuntu Software Center or in Synaptic.  I did download libaspell15_0.6.7~
> but when I click open and open it in Ubuntu Software Center, it says it
> will break dependencies, and does not install.
>
> Any suggestions for trying to install this way, or manually?
>
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> Please follow these instructions to add our repository:
>
> http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Debian
>
> thanks
> Craig
>
> _______________________________________________
> scribus-dev mailing list
> scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev
>
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From malex at scribus.net  Thu Nov  3 18:54:25 2011
From: malex at scribus.net (Oleksandr Moskalenko)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:54:25 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] RC6 Ubuntu 11.10 Installation isues
In-Reply-To: <CA+ZGUViEaK-i6XstR58tnajx-VEmY1y177VgfTpTw0xYK_Q7yg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+ZGUVijq6Xf80vDuFhD5+8GsDtffzRs7QUX_UwXE0P=cxJbAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EB2DEF3.9080901@zip.com.au>
	<CA+ZGUViEaK-i6XstR58tnajx-VEmY1y177VgfTpTw0xYK_Q7yg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8F9A6AF8-2896-43FC-9768-44E5DFF57753@scribus.net>


On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Brian Rohan wrote:

> 
> I did try to install the repository in the Ubuntu Software Center, that is what gave me the old RC2 as the dev branch.  I then used Synaptic, which showed me the RC6 version, but gave me errors within Synaptic and would not allow the install.
> 

I build all  packages in a "clean" 11.10 environment, so if you get synaptic errors please provide me with an output or a screenshot. That shouldn't happen.

Sorry for a broken link, http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Ubuntu (I missed canvas in my haste)


> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Persisting Without Exception
>            I Get it Done!
>     Brian J. Rohan  DTM
> www.AdvoCare.com/08052009
>  The Northwest's Elite Nutrition
>                805-876-4262
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/11/3 Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>
> On 11/3/11 6:41 PM, Brian Rohan wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have posted in the Scribus forums, and it was suggested that I post to this dev email group. I am having issues installing RC6 in Ubuntu 11.10. I copied what I pasted into the forums below:
>> 
>> I have been using Scribus on Windoze for quite some time now, and my files are saved as RC5. I am switching to Ubuntu 11.10, and trying to install RC6, so I may open my files made in Windoze RC5.  When I add the Repository to Ubuntu Software Center I can only get RC2, not a help in my             situation.  I am therefore trying to install RC6 from the .tar.bz2 download.  I have unpackaged the file in /home/username/Scribusinstall  I have also made another directory there called builddir.  I opened the Install4 file and was able to install all of the debian files except for python2.3-dev which I could not find, but have python-dev, and I was not able to find libcupsys2-dev. When I try             command line to get libcupsys2-dev I get the message "Note, selecting 'libcups2-dev' instead of 'libcupsys2-dev'"
>> 
>> All of this to say when I go into the builddir and try to cmake scribus I get the following errors:
>> 
>> 
>> CMake Error at styles/CMakeLists.txt:20 (QT4_WRAP_CPP):
>>   Unknown CMake command "QT4_WRAP_CPP".
>> 
>> 
>> CMake Warning (dev) in CMakeLists.txt:
>>   No cmake_minimum_required command is present.  A line of code such as
>> 
>>     cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.8)
>> 
>>   should be added at the top of the file.  The version specified may be lower
>>   if you wish to support older CMake versions for this project.  For more
>>   information run "cmake --help-policy CMP0000".
>> This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.
>> 
>> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I then installed Synaptic package manager, installed the key, and can see RC6 in available packages in Synaptic. When I try to install via Synaptic, I get an exclamation point in the box, when I proceed it says Fix Broken Packaged First. When I go to Edit Fix Broken Packages I get the following:
>> 
>> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
>> E: Unable to correct dependencies
>> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
>> E: Unable to correct dependen
>> 
>> When I then try to install via terminal I get the following:
>> 
>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>  scribus-ng : Depends: libaspell15 (>= 0.60.7~20110707) but 0.60.6-6 is to be installed
>>               Recommends: icc-profiles but it is not going to be installed
>> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>> 
>> 
>> I do have libaspell15 .60.6-6 installed already. I do not see .60.7 via Ubuntu Software Center or in Synaptic.  I did download libaspell15_0.6.7~ but when I click open and open it in Ubuntu Software Center, it says it will break dependencies, and does not install.
>> 
>> Any suggestions for trying to install this way, or manually?
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> Please follow these instructions to add our repository:
> 
> http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Debian
> 
> thanks
> Craig
> 
> _______________________________________________
> scribus-dev mailing list
> scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> scribus-dev mailing list
> scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev

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From brianjrohan at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 18:55:53 2011
From: brianjrohan at gmail.com (Brian Rohan)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:55:53 -0700
Subject: [scribus-dev] RC6 Ubuntu 11.10 Installation isues
In-Reply-To: <CA+ZGUViEaK-i6XstR58tnajx-VEmY1y177VgfTpTw0xYK_Q7yg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+ZGUVijq6Xf80vDuFhD5+8GsDtffzRs7QUX_UwXE0P=cxJbAA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EB2DEF3.9080901@zip.com.au>
	<CA+ZGUViEaK-i6XstR58tnajx-VEmY1y177VgfTpTw0xYK_Q7yg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+ZGUVhYcoTspav5Ye1Jc5CboVxSRhTh8F23p92SfX=YeJGo7g@mail.gmail.com>

My sincerest apologies. I now see the Ubuntu repositories, it is installing
just fine. Again, I apologize profusely.  I thought I had checked and
rechecked all of it last night.

Thank you very much!




 Persisting Without Exception
           *I Get it Done!*
    *Brian J. Rohan  DTM*
www.AdvoCare.com/08052009
 The Northwest's Elite Nutrition
               805-876-4262



On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Brian Rohan <brianjrohan at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I did try to install the repository in the Ubuntu Software Center, that is
> what gave me the old RC2 as the dev branch.  I then used Synaptic, which
> showed me the RC6 version, but gave me errors within Synaptic and would not
> allow the install.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Persisting Without Exception
>
>            *I Get it Done!*
>     *Brian J. Rohan  DTM*
> www.AdvoCare.com/08052009
>  The Northwest's Elite Nutrition
>                805-876-4262
>
>
>
> 2011/11/3 Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>
>
>>  On 11/3/11 6:41 PM, Brian Rohan wrote:
>>
>>
>>  I have posted in the Scribus forums, and it was suggested that I post
>> to this dev email group. I am having issues installing RC6 in Ubuntu 11.10.
>> I copied what I pasted into the forums below:
>>
>>  I have been using Scribus on Windoze for quite some time now, and my
>> files are saved as RC5. I am switching to Ubuntu 11.10, and trying to
>> install RC6, so I may open my files made in Windoze RC5.  When I add the
>> Repository to Ubuntu Software Center I can only get RC2, not a help in my
>> situation.  I am therefore trying to install RC6 from the .tar.bz2
>> download.  I have unpackaged the file in /home/username/Scribusinstall  I
>> have also made another directory there called builddir.  I opened the
>> Install4 file and was able to install all of the debian files except for
>> python2.3-dev which I could not find, but have python-dev, and I was not
>> able to find libcupsys2-dev. When I try command line to get libcupsys2-dev
>> I get the message "Note, selecting 'libcups2-dev' instead of
>> 'libcupsys2-dev'"
>>
>> All of this to say when I go into the builddir and try to cmake scribus I
>> get the following errors:
>>
>>
>> CMake Error at styles/CMakeLists.txt:20 (QT4_WRAP_CPP):
>>   Unknown CMake command "QT4_WRAP_CPP".
>>
>>
>> CMake Warning (dev) in CMakeLists.txt:
>>   No cmake_minimum_required command is present.  A line of code such as
>>
>>     cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.8)
>>
>>   should be added at the top of the file.  The version specified may be
>> lower
>>   if you wish to support older CMake versions for this project.  For more
>>   information run "cmake --help-policy CMP0000".
>> This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.
>>
>> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I then installed Synaptic package manager, installed the key, and can see
>> RC6 in available packages in Synaptic. When I try to install via Synaptic,
>> I get an exclamation point in the box, when I proceed it says Fix Broken
>> Packaged First. When I go to Edit Fix Broken Packages I get the following:
>>
>> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
>> caused by held packages.
>> E: Unable to correct dependencies
>> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
>> caused by held packages.
>> E: Unable to correct dependen
>>
>> When I then try to install via terminal I get the following:
>>
>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>  scribus-ng : Depends: libaspell15 (>= 0.60.7~20110707) but 0.60.6-6 is
>> to be installed
>>               Recommends: icc-profiles but it is not going to be installed
>> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>>
>>
>> I do have libaspell15 .60.6-6 installed already. I do not see .60.7 via
>> Ubuntu Software Center or in Synaptic.  I did download libaspell15_0.6.7~
>> but when I click open and open it in Ubuntu Software Center, it says it
>> will break dependencies, and does not install.
>>
>> Any suggestions for trying to install this way, or manually?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Please follow these instructions to add our repository:
>>
>> http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Debian
>>
>> thanks
>> Craig
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> scribus-dev mailing list
>> scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
>> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev
>>
>>
>
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From malex at scribus.net  Sun Nov  6 18:00:14 2011
From: malex at scribus.net (O. Moskalenko)
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:00:14 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Forum stats
Message-ID: <4EB6CB2E.6030508@scribus.net>

It looks like the forum is alive and well. I think the experiment was a 
success - thanks to ale, Nermander, Meho R., Wena, utnki, 
John_Jason_Jordan and others who are very active in helping other people 
out.

Some stats:

Total Members: 	351 <http://forums.scribus.net/index.php?action=mlist>
Total Posts: 	1243
Total Topics: 	272
Total Categories: 	4
Users Online: 	15
Most Online: 	46 - 2011-10-09, 06:17:28
Online Today: 	15
Total page views: 	408542


Average registrations per day: 	16.65
Average posts per day: 	4.97
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Average page views per day: 	1583.5




Cheers,

OM
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From snd.noise at gmail.com  Thu Nov 10 03:50:59 2011
From: snd.noise at gmail.com (farid abdelnour)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:50:59 -0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] precisa-se
Message-ID: <CAHMxv37B_NGd_aKOJOX_Hn-43tHYknQ2S+xJ0_N=naRPBkmVbQ@mail.gmail.com>

Ol? pessoal,

Alguem tme interesse/capacidade em ministrar um curso no scribus este ano?

Segue a mensagem que Uir? que pediu pra encaminhar...

"Ol?,

estamos precisando, em Fortaleza, de algu?m que tenha experi?ncia em
diagrama??o com scribus, para ministrar um curso para os servidores da
prefeitura. O curso ser? voltado, especialmente, para os respons?veis pela
publica??o do Di?rio Oficial do Munic?pio. :)

Se a pessoa n?o for de fortaleza, n?o tem problema. S? precisa ter
disponibilidade de vir ministrar o curso aqui."

entrem em contato com ele no email:  uira at culturalivre.org


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From brianjrohan at gmail.com  Mon Nov 14 15:40:19 2011
From: brianjrohan at gmail.com (Brian Rohan)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:40:19 -0800
Subject: [scribus-dev] Startup Script RC6
Message-ID: <CA+ZGUVjqcjpefOR3D82AFxx671+g=48GxvuBxFkpO0VfPH6jsw@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone else having a problem enabling a startup script in RC6? I can go
to File, Preferences, Scripter, check the startup script box, select a
script, apply it, move out of the scripter option, go back in, and viola,
no checkbox, no script in the selection box.  If I do the same as above in
setting the script, close Scribus, and restart, same non-working issue. If
I back all the way out, go to the script menu, execute script, and run the
script I want, it works flawlessly. Any suggestions?

Thank you




 Persisting Without Exception
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    *Brian J. Rohan  DTM*
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From ale.comp_06 at xox.ch  Mon Nov 14 15:54:18 2011
From: ale.comp_06 at xox.ch (a.l.e)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:54:18 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Startup Script RC6
In-Reply-To: <CA+ZGUVjqcjpefOR3D82AFxx671+g=48GxvuBxFkpO0VfPH6jsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+ZGUVjqcjpefOR3D82AFxx671+g=48GxvuBxFkpO0VfPH6jsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4EC139AA.9040308@xox.ch>

hi brian,

> Is anyone else having a problem enabling a startup script in RC6? I 
> can go to File, Preferences, Scripter, check the startup script box, 
> select a script, apply it, move out of the scripter option, go back 
> in, and viola, no checkbox, no script in the selection box.  If I do 
> the same as above in setting the script, close Scribus, and restart, 
> same non-working issue. If I back all the way out, go to the script 
> menu, execute script, and run the script I want, it works flawlessly. 
> Any suggestions?
i didn't extensively test it, but there seems to be a bug...

... and somebody (maybe yourself) already posted it to the bug tracker
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=10365

>
> Persisting Without Exception
> *I Get it Done!*
> *Brian J. Rohan  DTM*
> www.AdkvlolCalre.com/08605209909 <http://www.AdvoCare.com/08052009>
>  The Northwest's Elite Nutrition
> 8075-6876-42762
>

... and please remove your spamming footer...

ciao
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From cbradney at zip.com.au  Sun Nov 20 20:39:24 2011
From: cbradney at zip.com.au (Craig Bradney)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:39:24 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
Message-ID: <4EC9657C.4070605@zip.com.au>

Hi

Just FYI, I have picked up a 2009 Intel Mac Mini capable of running
Leopard. Therefore, I am transferring my dmg build process to it. Once
working, I won't be touching Tiger again :). Finally.

1.4 will be released as a Leopard or higher dmg.

Craig


From stmstmstmster at googlemail.com  Mon Nov 21 11:01:26 2011
From: stmstmstmster at googlemail.com (Stefan)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:01:26 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
In-Reply-To: <4EC9657C.4070605@zip.com.au>
References: <4EC9657C.4070605@zip.com.au>
Message-ID: <CABa6SrB=z+DaHvZyDdMzkSrXkwqNSgFSZyQaGvieGVRiD56Mjg@mail.gmail.com>

very good. I'm using scribus on Lion.

Am 20. November 2011 21:39 schrieb Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>:

> Hi
>
> Just FYI, I have picked up a 2009 Intel Mac Mini capable of running
> Leopard. Therefore, I am transferring my dmg build process to it. Once
> working, I won't be touching Tiger again :). Finally.
>
> 1.4 will be released as a Leopard or higher dmg.
>
> Craig
>
> _______________________________________________
> scribus-dev mailing list
> scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev
>



-- 
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From cbradney at zip.com.au  Wed Nov 23 23:14:43 2011
From: cbradney at zip.com.au (Craig Bradney)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:14:43 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
In-Reply-To: <CABa6SrB=z+DaHvZyDdMzkSrXkwqNSgFSZyQaGvieGVRiD56Mjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4EC9657C.4070605@zip.com.au>
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On 11/21/11 12:01 PM, Stefan wrote:
> very good. I'm using scribus on Lion.
>
> Am 20. November 2011 21:39 schrieb Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au <mailto:cbradney at zip.com.au>>:
>
>     Hi
>
>     Just FYI, I have picked up a 2009 Intel Mac Mini capable of running
>     Leopard. Therefore, I am transferring my dmg build process to it. Once
>     working, I won't be touching Tiger again :). Finally.
>
>     1.4 will be released as a Leopard or higher dmg.
>
>     Craig
>


I have created a .pkg installer and a dmg from current svn. Both are located at:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/files/scribus-tests/

They are based on a Leopard build, with a Carbon-based Qt to avoid bug #9892, and they will use your
local system's Python.

Note, these are tests only. All warnings apply - in the unlikely event that it breaks your system,
it probably needed reinstalling anyway :) . ClamXav reports no viruses.

Note the package installer in the version uploaded will allow installation on the local or external
drives, in the Application folder, and will overwrite (if you let it) any current versions of
Scribus.app.

These are not the final 1.4.0 release, but are built from today's SVN.

Please provide feedback. There will be more versions with refinements to background images, etc etc.

thanks
Craig
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From costabel at wanadoo.fr  Thu Nov 24 09:46:23 2011
From: costabel at wanadoo.fr (Martin Costabel)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:46:23 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
In-Reply-To: <4ECD7E63.4090801@zip.com.au>
References: <4EC9657C.4070605@zip.com.au>
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On 24/11/11 00:14, Craig Bradney wrote:
> On 11/21/11 12:01 PM, Stefan wrote:
>> very good. I'm using scribus on Lion.
>>
>> Am 20. November 2011 21:39 schrieb Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au
>> <mailto:cbradney at zip.com.au>>:
>>
>>     Hi
>>
>>     Just FYI, I have picked up a 2009 Intel Mac Mini capable of running
>>     Leopard. Therefore, I am transferring my dmg build process to it. Once
>>     working, I won't be touching Tiger again :). Finally.
>>
>>     1.4 will be released as a Leopard or higher dmg.
>>
>>     Craig
>>
>
>
> I have created a .pkg installer and a dmg from current svn. Both are
> located at:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/files/scribus-tests/
>
> They are based on a Leopard build, with a Carbon-based Qt to avoid bug
> #9892, and they will use your local system's Python.

Has anyone succeeded to build scribus on Lion (as opposed to run a Snow 
Leopard-built Scribus on Lion)?

I tried with 3 different compilers, but didn't succeed: Clang runs into 
a well-known bug of Apple's clang, llvm-gcc goes into an infinite loop 
(perhaps related to the same bug as clang), and the compilation with 
fsf-gcc-4.6 fails early on, because cmake or scribus insist on placing a 
"-arch x86-64" flag on the compiler line, which gcc-4.6 does not 
understand. And as usual with the cmake, it is impossible to find out 
where this bogus "-arch x86-64" is coming from.

-- 
Martin


From cbradney at scribus.info  Thu Nov 24 16:19:45 2011
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:19:45 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
In-Reply-To: <4ECE126F.3020509@wanadoo.fr>
References: <4EC9657C.4070605@zip.com.au>
	<CABa6SrB=z+DaHvZyDdMzkSrXkwqNSgFSZyQaGvieGVRiD56Mjg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 24/11/2011, at 10:46, Martin Costabel <costabel at wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> On 24/11/11 00:14, Craig Bradney wrote:
>> On 11/21/11 12:01 PM, Stefan wrote:
>>> very good. I'm using scribus on Lion.
>>> 
>>> Am 20. November 2011 21:39 schrieb Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au
>>> <mailto:cbradney at zip.com.au>>:
>>> 
>>>    Hi
>>> 
>>>    Just FYI, I have picked up a 2009 Intel Mac Mini capable of running
>>>    Leopard. Therefore, I am transferring my dmg build process to it. Once
>>>    working, I won't be touching Tiger again :). Finally.
>>> 
>>>    1.4 will be released as a Leopard or higher dmg.
>>> 
>>>    Craig
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have created a .pkg installer and a dmg from current svn. Both are
>> located at:
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/files/scribus-tests/
>> 
>> They are based on a Leopard build, with a Carbon-based Qt to avoid bug
>> #9892, and they will use your local system's Python.
> 
> Has anyone succeeded to build scribus on Lion (as opposed to run a Snow Leopard-built Scribus on Lion)?
> 
> I tried with 3 different compilers, but didn't succeed: Clang runs into a well-known bug of Apple's clang, llvm-gcc goes into an infinite loop (perhaps related to the same bug as clang), and the compilation with fsf-gcc-4.6 fails early on, because cmake or scribus insist on placing a "-arch x86-64" flag on the compiler line, which gcc-4.6 does not understand. And as usual with the cmake, it is impossible to find out where this bogus "-arch x86-64" is coming from.
> 
> -- 
> Martin
> 
> _______________________________________________
> scribus-dev mailing list
> scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev

No problems whatsoever on 2 Lion machines at home with any Scribus branch.

Craig

From cbradney at scribus.info  Thu Nov 24 20:18:42 2011
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:18:42 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] I think it's time
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References: <4E9319E2.3020209@iglou.com>
	<CAFjkzc1cLPvawm5KnhuCJh4GBs0z5XTmVx5g6sAait_=kLkrhQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM9PYkacsyC+o3YAL79_OWMy5zKiV5Tzjfu5vrt+RRope7x2qA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E9335AF.9070607@scribus.info> <4E935443.2070604@iglou.com>
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On 10/11/11 3:22 PM, Oleksandr Moskalenko wrote:
> 
> On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Louis Desjardins wrote:
>>
>> At this point, the fastest way would be to use the non-profit that already exists in Montreal. It's legally constituted and is aimed at "developing and promoting open source and free software" including raising money and organising conferences. AQDPLL is also a vendor to Google and has already invoiced Intel, HP and is handling OIF?s money for Scribus. AQDPLL has 3 bank accounts in USD, EUR and CAD. Getting money in is no issue. Keeping track of the donations through Paypal or any other means should be a breeze to organise both within and outside the banking operations (so a larger "Scribus Board" could readily access the info at any time ? we cannot have lots of people connected to the bank account directly so we need the donation info to follow 2 paths if we want exterior people to be informed of the donations). Or maybe not a breeze but should be simple enough. However this will not give anybody a tax-deduction but for small amounts this shouldn?t matter too much. Going
 the charitable way is not that easy as well and the laws are different from country to country. AQDPLL is a non-profit but not a charitable organisation in front of the law here so while we can give receipts, these would be of no use when the time comes to declare your income. We?re not going to solve that at our level anyway. And larger organisations cannot do it either. They are confined to one specific country so they must go by those rules. USA laws are very strict on that purpose by the talks I had with the people at GNOME so, nothing easy in any jurisdiction. A European non-profit should be considered down the road once we get into large numbers. Until then, the solutions that work even if not "perfect" will be the best ones.
>>
>> Louis
> 
> Louis,
> 
> I believe that AQDPLL is the best option we have at this time. I personally fully support going with AWDPLL as an umbrella non-profit organization for handling the external affairs of the Scribus Team, especially the financial activities. I believe that the majority of the people who might be considering a donation will not be worried by the absence of the charitable status of their donations. And frankly, noone currently on the Scribus Team is in a position to set up something like this.
> 
> Thank you for bringing the voice of reason to the table!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> OM
> 
> 
>
Not sure where this got to, but I'd support it too.

It'd be great if we could have donations available in time for the 1.4.0 release.

How long would it take Louis and do you have time?

thanks
Craig


From cbradney at scribus.info  Thu Nov 24 22:06:24 2011
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:06:24 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] 1.4.0 Release Notes Work
Message-ID: <4ECEBFE0.6000004@scribus.info>

Hi

http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/1.4.0_Release now has the current list of bugs from the Change log..

2000+ bugs/RFEs resolved.

My work (originally) on that page was...

- group by category (done for all)
- create subgroups where required
- summarise a bug or group of bugs into a comment or paragraph
- then somehow turn it into a proper text.

Lots of work to do... feel free to help out. Please :)

cya
Craig

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From costabel at wanadoo.fr  Fri Nov 25 00:59:54 2011
From: costabel at wanadoo.fr (Martin Costabel)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:59:54 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
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On 24/11/11 17:19, Craig Bradney wrote:
[]
> No problems whatsoever on 2 Lion machines at home with any Scribus branch.

Which compiler is this using?

-- 
Martin



From louis.desjardins at gmail.com  Fri Nov 25 01:09:06 2011
From: louis.desjardins at gmail.com (Louis Desjardins)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:09:06 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] I think it's time
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2011/11/24 Craig Bradney <cbradney at scribus.info>

> On 10/11/11 3:22 PM, Oleksandr Moskalenko wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Louis Desjardins wrote:
> >>
> >> At this point, the fastest way would be to use the non-profit that
> already exists in Montreal. It's legally constituted and is aimed at
> "developing and promoting open source and free software" including raising
> money and organising conferences. AQDPLL is also a vendor to Google and has
> already invoiced Intel, HP and is handling OIF?s money for Scribus. AQDPLL
> has 3 bank accounts in USD, EUR and CAD. Getting money in is no issue.
> Keeping track of the donations through Paypal or any other means should be
> a breeze to organise both within and outside the banking operations (so a
> larger "Scribus Board" could readily access the info at any time ? we
> cannot have lots of people connected to the bank account directly so we
> need the donation info to follow 2 paths if we want exterior people to be
> informed of the donations). Or maybe not a breeze but should be simple
> enough. However this will not give anybody a tax-deduction but for small
> amounts this shouldn?t matter too much. Going
>  the charitable way is not that easy as well and the laws are different
> from country to country. AQDPLL is a non-profit but not a charitable
> organisation in front of the law here so while we can give receipts, these
> would be of no use when the time comes to declare your income. We?re not
> going to solve that at our level anyway. And larger organisations cannot do
> it either. They are confined to one specific country so they must go by
> those rules. USA laws are very strict on that purpose by the talks I had
> with the people at GNOME so, nothing easy in any jurisdiction. A European
> non-profit should be considered down the road once we get into large
> numbers. Until then, the solutions that work even if not "perfect" will be
> the best ones.
> >>
> >> Louis
> >
> > Louis,
> >
> > I believe that AQDPLL is the best option we have at this time. I
> personally fully support going with AWDPLL as an umbrella non-profit
> organization for handling the external affairs of the Scribus Team,
> especially the financial activities. I believe that the majority of the
> people who might be considering a donation will not be worried by the
> absence of the charitable status of their donations. And frankly, noone
> currently on the Scribus Team is in a position to set up something like
> this.
> >
> > Thank you for bringing the voice of reason to the table!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > OM
> >
> >
> >
> Not sure where this got to, but I'd support it too.
>
> It'd be great if we could have donations available in time for the 1.4.0
> release.
>
> How long would it take Louis and do you have time?
>

I am sure it wouldn't take much work to get this running. We already have a
Paypal account and we can work with this and/or use any other mean to
connect to Paypal through the website. Just like we did with LGM.

The issue I have now is time for the admin work, like follow-ups and
invoice, etc. But I could and should only ask my accounting desk at the
office to spare a bit of time on that too. The additionnal work for her
would not be too much. So far I haven't asked that because I thought of
handling this myself to save all the money we could but really... I am so
busy at work that this has become a bit silly. The cost would be very
little for a great benefit.

Also, we have been contacted by Peter Ross from flattr:

Peter.
Peter Ross
Flattr - social micropayments
www.flattr.com
@Peterro55

who offer to help raising money for LGM and they already help Blender so it
might be a good time to talk with them to know how they work and what they
ask to help.

Please let me know what you want to do.

Cheers!

Louis

>
> thanks
> Craig
>
>
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From cbradney at zip.com.au  Fri Nov 25 06:06:59 2011
From: cbradney at zip.com.au (Craig Bradney)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:06:59 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
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On 11/25/11 1:59 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
> On 24/11/11 17:19, Craig Bradney wrote:
> []
>> No problems whatsoever on 2 Lion machines at home with any Scribus branch.
>
> Which compiler is this using?
>
$ gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
Target: i686-apple-darwin11
Configured with: /private/var/tmp/llvmgcc42/llvmgcc42-2335.15~25/src/configure --disable-checking
--enable-werror --prefix=/Developer/usr/llvm-gcc-4.2 --mandir=/share/man
--enable-languages=c,objc,c++,obj-c++ --program-prefix=llvm-
--program-transform-name=/^[cg][^.-]*$/s/$/-4.2/ --with-slibdir=/usr/lib --build=i686-apple-darwin11
--enable-llvm=/private/var/tmp/llvmgcc42/llvmgcc42-2335.15~25/dst-llvmCore/Developer/usr/local
--program-prefix=i686-apple-darwin11- --host=x86_64-apple-darwin11 --target=i686-apple-darwin11
--with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2335.15.00)

thats on my iMac which was upgraded from Snow Leopard.. but it also works on my Air which was Lion
from the start.

Craig


From costabel at wanadoo.fr  Sat Nov 26 08:25:51 2011
From: costabel at wanadoo.fr (Martin Costabel)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:25:51 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Scribus on Lion (Was Re:  Leopard OSX 10.5)
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On 25/11/11 07:06, Craig Bradney wrote:
[]
> $ gcc -v
> Using built-in specs.
> Target: i686-apple-darwin11
> Configured with: /private/var/tmp/llvmgcc42/llvmgcc42-2335.15~25/src/configure --disable-checking
> --enable-werror --prefix=/Developer/usr/llvm-gcc-4.2 --mandir=/share/man
> --enable-languages=c,objc,c++,obj-c++ --program-prefix=llvm-
> --program-transform-name=/^[cg][^.-]*$/s/$/-4.2/ --with-slibdir=/usr/lib --build=i686-apple-darwin11
> --enable-llvm=/private/var/tmp/llvmgcc42/llvmgcc42-2335.15~25/dst-llvmCore/Developer/usr/local
> --program-prefix=i686-apple-darwin11- --host=x86_64-apple-darwin11 --target=i686-apple-darwin11
> --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1
> Thread model: posix
> gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2335.15.00)
>
> thats on my iMac which was upgraded from Snow Leopard.. but it also works on my Air which was Lion
> from the start.

Good for you. It doesn't help me, unfortunately. My llvm version is 
slightly higher:
gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 
2336.1.00). It is from xcode-4.2.1.
I wonder if this can be the reason it doesn't work for me.

Concretely, I cannot compile the file scribus/util.cpp with either 
/usr/bin/c++ (which is llvm-g++) or with clang.
With clang, it gives the bogus error message:

In file included from 
/sw/src/fink.build/scribus-x11-1.4.0-2.rc6/scribus-1.4.0.rc6/scribus/desaxe/digester.cpp:20:
/sw/src/fink.build/scribus-x11-1.4.0-2.rc6/scribus-1.4.0.rc6/scribus/desaxe/actions.h:160:45: 
error: 'body' is a private member of 'desaxe::Action'
                 return 
static_cast<Generator_body<Type>*>(body)->eval(dig, tag, attr);
                                                           ^
/sw/src/fink.build/scribus-x11-1.4.0-2.rc6/scribus-1.4.0.rc6/scribus/desaxe/actions.h:101:15: 
note: declared private here
         Action_body* body;

This is a known bug in clang that is fixed upstream but not yet in 
Lion's version. Scribus cannot do anything about it.

With /usr/bin/c++, the compilation goes into an infinite loop: it takes 
100% CPU and does nothing.

I can compile the file OK with g++-fsf-4.6 from Fink, but I cannot build 
scribus with gcc-4.6, because the build process insists on placing the 
flag "-arch x86_64" on the compiler line, which is wrong syntax for 
gcc-4.6. It does this already in the cmake configure phase which 
therefore fails, and I have not yet found a way to prevent cmake from 
doing this.

-- 
Martin







From cbradney at zip.com.au  Sat Nov 26 08:50:30 2011
From: cbradney at zip.com.au (Craig Bradney)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:50:30 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Scribus on Lion (Was Re:  Leopard OSX 10.5)
In-Reply-To: <4ED0A28F.2010101@wanadoo.fr>
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On 11/26/11 9:25 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
> On 25/11/11 07:06, Craig Bradney wrote:
> []
>> $ gcc -v
>> Using built-in specs.
>> Target: i686-apple-darwin11
>> Configured with:
>> /private/var/tmp/llvmgcc42/llvmgcc42-2335.15~25/src/configure
>> --disable-checking
>> --enable-werror --prefix=/Developer/usr/llvm-gcc-4.2 --mandir=/share/man
>> --enable-languages=c,objc,c++,obj-c++ --program-prefix=llvm-
>> --program-transform-name=/^[cg][^.-]*$/s/$/-4.2/
>> --with-slibdir=/usr/lib --build=i686-apple-darwin11
>> --enable-llvm=/private/var/tmp/llvmgcc42/llvmgcc42-2335.15~25/dst-llvmCore/Developer/usr/local
>>
>> --program-prefix=i686-apple-darwin11- --host=x86_64-apple-darwin11
>> --target=i686-apple-darwin11
>> --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1
>> Thread model: posix
>> gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build
>> 2335.15.00)
>>
>> thats on my iMac which was upgraded from Snow Leopard.. but it also
>> works on my Air which was Lion
>> from the start.
> 
> Good for you. It doesn't help me, unfortunately. My llvm version is
> slightly higher:
> gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build
> 2336.1.00). It is from xcode-4.2.1.
> I wonder if this can be the reason it doesn't work for me.

Strange .. how is yours newer?

> /sw/src/fink.build/scribus-x11-1.4.0-2.rc6/scribus-1.4.0.rc6/scribus/desaxe/digester.cpp:20:

scribus-x11? Is the -x11 because you are building for fink distribution? or?

> I can compile the file OK with g++-fsf-4.6 from Fink, but I cannot build
> scribus with gcc-4.6, because the build process insists on placing the
> flag "-arch x86_64" on the compiler line, which is wrong syntax for
> gcc-4.6. It does this already in the cmake configure phase which
> therefore fails, and I have not yet found a way to prevent cmake from
> doing this.

what's the gcc-4.6 version of this flag?

thanks
Craig



From costabel at wanadoo.fr  Sat Nov 26 11:01:10 2011
From: costabel at wanadoo.fr (Martin Costabel)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:01:10 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Scribus on Lion (Was Re:  Leopard OSX 10.5)
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On 26/11/11 09:50, Craig Bradney wrote:
> On 11/26/11 9:25 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
[]
>> gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build
>> 2336.1.00). It is from xcode-4.2.1.
>> I wonder if this can be the reason it doesn't work for me.
>
> Strange .. how is yours newer?

I don't know, maybe xcode-4.2.1 vs -4.2 ?

>> /sw/src/fink.build/scribus-x11-1.4.0-2.rc6/scribus-1.4.0.rc6/scribus/desaxe/digester.cpp:20:
>
> scribus-x11? Is the -x11 because you are building for fink distribution? or?

Yes, but the same problems appear for the aqua variant. I try to 
maintain both variants for Fink. On 10.5 and 10.6, I have no problems 
building both of them.

>> I can compile the file OK with g++-fsf-4.6 from Fink, but I cannot build
>> scribus with gcc-4.6, because the build process insists on placing the
>> flag "-arch x86_64" on the compiler line, which is wrong syntax for
>> gcc-4.6. It does this already in the cmake configure phase which
>> therefore fails, and I have not yet found a way to prevent cmake from
>> doing this.
>
> what's the gcc-4.6 version of this flag?

It is "-march=CPU-TYPE", where "CPU-TYPE" for Lion would be one of 
"nocona", "core2" or perhaps "native" or "corei7". On Lion, there is 
only one architecture, and fsf-gcc does not build fat binaries, so this 
architecture flag is basically useless.

Martin


From stmstmstmster at googlemail.com  Mon Nov 28 16:05:22 2011
From: stmstmstmster at googlemail.com (Stefan)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:05:22 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
In-Reply-To: <4ECD7E63.4090801@zip.com.au>
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i will look at it on Thursday.

Am 24. November 2011 00:14 schrieb Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>:

>  On 11/21/11 12:01 PM, Stefan wrote:
>
> very good. I'm using scribus on Lion.
>
> Am 20. November 2011 21:39 schrieb Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Just FYI, I have picked up a 2009 Intel Mac Mini capable of running
>> Leopard. Therefore, I am transferring my dmg build process to it. Once
>> working, I won't be touching Tiger again :). Finally.
>>
>> 1.4 will be released as a Leopard or higher dmg.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>
>
> I have created a .pkg installer and a dmg from current svn. Both are
> located at:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/files/scribus-tests/
>
> They are based on a Leopard build, with a Carbon-based Qt to avoid bug
> #9892, and they will use your local system's Python.
>
> Note, these are tests only. All warnings apply - in the unlikely event
> that it breaks your system, it probably needed reinstalling anyway :) .
> ClamXav reports no viruses.
>
> Note the package installer in the version uploaded will allow installation
> on the local or external drives, in the Application folder, and will
> overwrite (if you let it) any current versions of Scribus.app.
>
> These are not the final 1.4.0 release, but are built from today's SVN.
>
> Please provide feedback. There will be more versions with refinements to
> background images, etc etc.
>
> thanks
> Craig
>
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>


-- 
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From ale.comp_06 at xox.ch  Mon Nov 28 16:25:18 2011
From: ale.comp_06 at xox.ch (a.l.e)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:25:18 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
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hi

as requested, i've tested the .dmg on lion:

- the .dmg is too big. i wonder if there shouldn't be a light version of 
the .dmg without python and gs... (if they're the ones to blame)

- the height of the finder window for the .dmg is to small by a few 
pixel (not sure if it depends from the last window i've opened on my 
system, thought)

- the icons on the toolbar when no document is open look better than 
previously...

- i could successfully create a document and quit scribus...

ciao
a.l.e


From cbradney at zip.com.au  Mon Nov 28 19:25:24 2011
From: cbradney at zip.com.au (Craig Bradney)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:25:24 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
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On 11/28/11 5:25 PM, a.l.e wrote:
> hi
>
> as requested, i've tested the .dmg on lion:
>
> - the .dmg is too big. i wonder if there shouldn't be a light version of the .dmg without python
> and gs... (if they're the ones to blame)
Python is from the system it is installed on. gs is not included.

The aspell directory is almost 300Mb.. feel free to select which dictionaries we should distribute
to get this down.

thanks
Craig




From louis.desjardins at gmail.com  Mon Nov 28 20:33:18 2011
From: louis.desjardins at gmail.com (Louis Desjardins)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:33:18 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
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2011/11/28 Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>

> On 11/28/11 5:25 PM, a.l.e wrote:
> > hi
> >
> > as requested, i've tested the .dmg on lion:
> >
> > - the .dmg is too big. i wonder if there shouldn't be a light version of
> the .dmg without python
> > and gs... (if they're the ones to blame)
> Python is from the system it is installed on. gs is not included.
>
> The aspell directory is almost 300Mb.. feel free to select which
> dictionaries we should distribute
> to get this down.
>

For what it's worth, here are the weight of a couple other apps. Scribus
was low and is now high but was not the lowest then and is not the highest
in weight now, as you can tell.

LibreOffice - 478,5 MB
OpenOffice - 423,9 MB
Scribus 1.4.0RC6 (new) 4141,7 MB
Inkscape 290,4 MB
GIMP 216,3 MB
Scribus 1.4.0RC6 (previous) 161,4 MB

Considering those figures, can we say we have an issue at 414,7, especially
when we are shipping with a spellchecker?something many users have asked
for over the years? LibreOffice has a wider circulation that Scribus, I
guess, and this weight seems to have no real bad effect, does it?

Cheers!

Louis




> thanks
> Craig
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From cbradney at zip.com.au  Mon Nov 28 20:48:32 2011
From: cbradney at zip.com.au (Craig Bradney)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 21:48:32 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
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On 11/28/11 9:33 PM, Louis Desjardins wrote:
> 2011/11/28 Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au <mailto:cbradney at zip.com.au>>
>
>     On 11/28/11 5:25 PM, a.l.e wrote:
>     > hi
>     >
>     > as requested, i've tested the .dmg on lion:
>     >
>     > - the .dmg is too big. i wonder if there shouldn't be a light version of the .dmg without python
>     > and gs... (if they're the ones to blame)
>     Python is from the system it is installed on. gs is not included.
>
>     The aspell directory is almost 300Mb.. feel free to select which dictionaries we should distribute
>     to get this down.
>
>
> For what it's worth, here are the weight of a couple other apps. Scribus was low and is now high
> but was not the lowest then and is not the highest in weight now, as you can tell.
>
> LibreOffice - 478,5 MB
> OpenOffice - 423,9 MB
> Scribus 1.4.0RC6 (new) 4141,7 MB
> Inkscape 290,4 MB
> GIMP 216,3 MB
> Scribus 1.4.0RC6 (previous) 161,4 MB
>
> Considering those figures, can we say we have an issue at 414,7, especially when we are shipping
> with a spellchecker---something many users have asked for over the years? LibreOffice has a wider
> circulation that Scribus, I guess, and this weight seems to have no real bad effect, does it?
>

Er.. 414,7 :)

I don't have an issue with it.. however.. there are a lot:
aspell-dict-af                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-af
aspell-dict-ar                 @1.2-0          textproc/aspell-dict-ar
aspell-dict-az                 @0.02-0         textproc/aspell-dict-az
aspell-dict-be                 @0.01           textproc/aspell-dict-be
aspell-dict-bg                 @4.1-0          textproc/aspell-dict-bg
aspell-dict-bn                 @0.01.1-1       textproc/aspell-dict-bn
aspell-dict-ca                 @2.1.5-1        textproc/aspell-dict-ca
aspell-dict-cs                 @20040614-1     textproc/aspell-dict-cs
aspell-dict-da                 @1.4.42-1       textproc/aspell-dict-da
aspell-dict-de                 @20030222-1     textproc/aspell-dict-de
aspell-dict-de-alt             @2.1-1          textproc/aspell-dict-de-alt
aspell-dict-el                 @0.50-3         textproc/aspell-dict-el
aspell-dict-en                 @7.1            textproc/aspell-dict-en
aspell-dict-eo                 @2.1.20000225a-2 textproc/aspell-dict-eo
aspell-dict-es                 @1.11-2         textproc/aspell-dict-es
aspell-dict-et                 @0.1.21-1       textproc/aspell-dict-et
aspell-dict-fa                 @0.11-0         textproc/aspell-dict-fa
aspell-dict-fi                 @0.7-0          textproc/aspell-dict-fi
aspell-dict-fr                 @0.50           textproc/aspell-dict-fr
aspell-dict-he                 @1.0-0          textproc/aspell-dict-he
aspell-dict-hi                 @0.02-0         textproc/aspell-dict-hi
aspell-dict-hr                 @0.51-0         textproc/aspell-dict-hr
aspell-dict-hu                 @0.99.4.2-0     textproc/aspell-dict-hu
aspell-dict-id                 @1.2-0          textproc/aspell-dict-id
aspell-dict-is                 @0.51.1-0       textproc/aspell-dict-is
aspell-dict-it                 @2.2_20050523-0 textproc/aspell-dict-it
aspell-dict-lt                 @1.2.1-0        textproc/aspell-dict-lt
aspell-dict-lv                 @0.5.5-1        textproc/aspell-dict-lv
aspell-dict-mg                 @0.03-0         textproc/aspell-dict-mg
aspell-dict-mk                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-mk
aspell-dict-mr                 @0.10-0         textproc/aspell-dict-mr
aspell-dict-ms                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-ms
aspell-dict-nb                 @0.50.1-0       textproc/aspell-dict-nb
aspell-dict-nl                 @0.50-2         textproc/aspell-dict-nl
aspell-dict-pl                 @6.0_20061121-0 textproc/aspell-dict-pl
aspell-dict-pt_BR              @20090702-0     textproc/aspell-dict-pt_BR
aspell-dict-pt_PT              @20070510-0     textproc/aspell-dict-pt_PT
aspell-dict-ro                 @3.3-2          textproc/aspell-dict-ro
aspell-dict-ru                 @0.99f7-1       textproc/aspell-dict-ru
aspell-dict-rw                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-rw
aspell-dict-sk                 @2.01-2         textproc/aspell-dict-sk
aspell-dict-sr                 @0.02           textproc/aspell-dict-sr
aspell-dict-sv                 @0.51           textproc/aspell-dict-sv
aspell-dict-sw                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-sw
aspell-dict-ta                 @20040424-1     textproc/aspell-dict-ta
aspell-dict-tl                 @0.02-1         textproc/aspell-dict-tl
aspell-dict-tr                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-tr
aspell-dict-uk                 @1.4.0-0        textproc/aspell-dict-uk
aspell-dict-uz                 @0.6-0          textproc/aspell-dict-uz
aspell-dict-vi                 @0.01.1-1       textproc/aspell-dict-vi

Anyway... this is just a test. The old installer had nowhere near this.. just fr/de/en GUI files and
aspell files.

The point of releasing those pkg/dmg files was to see how it would work across systems. I have now
also added podofo support and will see what else I can achieve.

thanks
Craig

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From louis.desjardins at gmail.com  Mon Nov 28 21:14:46 2011
From: louis.desjardins at gmail.com (Louis Desjardins)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:14:46 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
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2011/11/28 Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>

>  On 11/28/11 9:33 PM, Louis Desjardins wrote:
>
> 2011/11/28 Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>
>
>> On 11/28/11 5:25 PM, a.l.e wrote:
>> > hi
>> >
>> > as requested, i've tested the .dmg on lion:
>> >
>> > - the .dmg is too big. i wonder if there shouldn't be a light version
>> of the .dmg without python
>> > and gs... (if they're the ones to blame)
>>  Python is from the system it is installed on. gs is not included.
>>
>> The aspell directory is almost 300Mb.. feel free to select which
>> dictionaries we should distribute
>> to get this down.
>>
>
> For what it's worth, here are the weight of a couple other apps. Scribus
> was low and is now high but was not the lowest then and is not the highest
> in weight now, as you can tell.
>
> LibreOffice - 478,5 MB
> OpenOffice - 423,9 MB
> Scribus 1.4.0RC6 (new) 4141,7 MB
> Inkscape 290,4 MB
> GIMP 216,3 MB
> Scribus 1.4.0RC6 (previous) 161,4 MB
>
> Considering those figures, can we say we have an issue at 414,7,
> especially when we are shipping with a spellchecker?something many users
> have asked for over the years? LibreOffice has a wider circulation that
> Scribus, I guess, and this weight seems to have no real bad effect, does it?
>
>
> Er.. 414,7 :)
>

Ah yes ! Hum !!! :)

>
> I don't have an issue with it.. however.. there are a lot:
> aspell-dict-af                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-af
> aspell-dict-ar                 @1.2-0          textproc/aspell-dict-ar
> aspell-dict-az                 @0.02-0         textproc/aspell-dict-az
> aspell-dict-be                 @0.01           textproc/aspell-dict-be
> aspell-dict-bg                 @4.1-0          textproc/aspell-dict-bg
> aspell-dict-bn                 @0.01.1-1       textproc/aspell-dict-bn
> aspell-dict-ca                 @2.1.5-1        textproc/aspell-dict-ca
> aspell-dict-cs                 @20040614-1     textproc/aspell-dict-cs
> aspell-dict-da                 @1.4.42-1       textproc/aspell-dict-da
> aspell-dict-de                 @20030222-1     textproc/aspell-dict-de
> aspell-dict-de-alt             @2.1-1          textproc/aspell-dict-de-alt
> aspell-dict-el                 @0.50-3         textproc/aspell-dict-el
> aspell-dict-en                 @7.1            textproc/aspell-dict-en
> aspell-dict-eo                 @2.1.20000225a-2 textproc/aspell-dict-eo
> aspell-dict-es                 @1.11-2         textproc/aspell-dict-es
> aspell-dict-et                 @0.1.21-1       textproc/aspell-dict-et
> aspell-dict-fa                 @0.11-0         textproc/aspell-dict-fa
> aspell-dict-fi                 @0.7-0          textproc/aspell-dict-fi
> aspell-dict-fr                 @0.50           textproc/aspell-dict-fr
> aspell-dict-he                 @1.0-0          textproc/aspell-dict-he
> aspell-dict-hi                 @0.02-0         textproc/aspell-dict-hi
> aspell-dict-hr                 @0.51-0         textproc/aspell-dict-hr
> aspell-dict-hu                 @0.99.4.2-0     textproc/aspell-dict-hu
> aspell-dict-id                 @1.2-0          textproc/aspell-dict-id
> aspell-dict-is                 @0.51.1-0       textproc/aspell-dict-is
> aspell-dict-it                 @2.2_20050523-0 textproc/aspell-dict-it
> aspell-dict-lt                 @1.2.1-0        textproc/aspell-dict-lt
> aspell-dict-lv                 @0.5.5-1        textproc/aspell-dict-lv
> aspell-dict-mg                 @0.03-0         textproc/aspell-dict-mg
> aspell-dict-mk                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-mk
> aspell-dict-mr                 @0.10-0         textproc/aspell-dict-mr
> aspell-dict-ms                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-ms
> aspell-dict-nb                 @0.50.1-0       textproc/aspell-dict-nb
> aspell-dict-nl                 @0.50-2         textproc/aspell-dict-nl
> aspell-dict-pl                 @6.0_20061121-0 textproc/aspell-dict-pl
> aspell-dict-pt_BR              @20090702-0     textproc/aspell-dict-pt_BR
> aspell-dict-pt_PT              @20070510-0     textproc/aspell-dict-pt_PT
> aspell-dict-ro                 @3.3-2          textproc/aspell-dict-ro
> aspell-dict-ru                 @0.99f7-1       textproc/aspell-dict-ru
> aspell-dict-rw                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-rw
> aspell-dict-sk                 @2.01-2         textproc/aspell-dict-sk
> aspell-dict-sr                 @0.02           textproc/aspell-dict-sr
> aspell-dict-sv                 @0.51           textproc/aspell-dict-sv
> aspell-dict-sw                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-sw
> aspell-dict-ta                 @20040424-1     textproc/aspell-dict-ta
> aspell-dict-tl                 @0.02-1         textproc/aspell-dict-tl
> aspell-dict-tr                 @0.50-0         textproc/aspell-dict-tr
> aspell-dict-uk                 @1.4.0-0        textproc/aspell-dict-uk
> aspell-dict-uz                 @0.6-0          textproc/aspell-dict-uz
> aspell-dict-vi                 @0.01.1-1       textproc/aspell-dict-vi
>
> Anyway... this is just a test. The old installer had nowhere near this..
> just fr/de/en GUI files and aspell files.
>
> The point of releasing those pkg/dmg files was to see how it would work
> across systems. I have now also added podofo support and will see what else
> I can achieve.
>

>From my end, no issues whatsoever but I haven't tested that much. It
launches ok, creates new docs ok, saves ok. Apart from the style issues I
have reported in the bugtracker ? but they are not related to this
particular build, I think ? the .dmg works fine.

Louis

>
> thanks
> Craig
>
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From ale.comp_06 at xox.ch  Tue Nov 29 06:56:17 2011
From: ale.comp_06 at xox.ch (ale rimoldi)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 07:56:17 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
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hi

> >     > as requested, i've tested the .dmg on lion:
> >     >
> >     > - the .dmg is too big. i wonder if there shouldn't be a light
> >     > version of the .dmg without python and gs... (if they're the
> >     > ones to blame)
> >     Python is from the system it is installed on. gs is not
> > included.
> >
> >     The aspell directory is almost 300Mb.. feel free to select
> > which dictionaries we should distribute to get this down.

i would suggest to create a light version of the dmg with only english
spelling check (or en, de, fr, pt-br, nl to cover the most
important languages) and no python in there.

one can choose to download the full package or the light one (and at a
later time -- if she notices that something is missing -- the full one).

i wasn't suggesting to strip down the .dmg. just to offer a second one
which is not as big to download.
this only matters if we can strip it down in a noticeable way!

i don't really care about the disk space (well, i was a bit scared
when i saw that it was installing a couple of gigas... but then i
realized how big my disk is...), but we should be careful with the time
it takes to download (personally, i have no problem in downloading
150MB... but other people do...)

downloading scribus is the first impression somebody has of scribus! it
should be a pleasant one!

ciao
a.l.e


From stmstmstmster at googlemail.com  Wed Nov 30 10:18:48 2011
From: stmstmstmster at googlemail.com (Stefan)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:18:48 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] Leopard OSX 10.5
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well, as a contra :-)

desk top publishing is complex and should not be dumbed down.

Here is my suggestion for the Mac Download page

"<small>A word about download size: Scribus is a complex system with lots
of advanced features. To bring this good stuff on your specific system, we
created a complete package that is simple for you to install. Unfortunatly
this comes with the cost of large package size. Thanks for your patience
while downloading.</small>".

Am 29. November 2011 07:56 schrieb ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch>:

> hi
>
> > >     > as requested, i've tested the .dmg on lion:
> > >     >
> > >     > - the .dmg is too big. i wonder if there shouldn't be a light
> > >     > version of the .dmg without python and gs... (if they're the
> > >     > ones to blame)
> > >     Python is from the system it is installed on. gs is not
> > > included.
> > >
> > >     The aspell directory is almost 300Mb.. feel free to select
> > > which dictionaries we should distribute to get this down.
>
> i would suggest to create a light version of the dmg with only english
> spelling check (or en, de, fr, pt-br, nl to cover the most
> important languages) and no python in there.
>
> one can choose to download the full package or the light one (and at a
> later time -- if she notices that something is missing -- the full one).
>
> i wasn't suggesting to strip down the .dmg. just to offer a second one
> which is not as big to download.
> this only matters if we can strip it down in a noticeable way!
>
> i don't really care about the disk space (well, i was a bit scared
> when i saw that it was installing a couple of gigas... but then i
> realized how big my disk is...), but we should be careful with the time
> it takes to download (personally, i have no problem in downloading
> 150MB... but other people do...)
>
> downloading scribus is the first impression somebody has of scribus! it
> should be a pleasant one!
>
> ciao
> a.l.e
>
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From stmstmstmster at googlemail.com  Wed Nov 30 10:22:06 2011
From: stmstmstmster at googlemail.com (Stefan)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:22:06 +0100
Subject: [scribus-dev] 1.4.0 Release Notes Work
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I will work on it the next days.

Is there a deadline?

Am 24. November 2011 23:06 schrieb Craig Bradney <cbradney at scribus.info>:

> Hi
>
> http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/1.4.0_Release now has the current list of
> bugs from the Change log..
>
> 2000+ bugs/RFEs resolved.
>
> My work (originally) on that page was...
>
> - group by category (done for all)
> - create subgroups where required
> - summarise a bug or group of bugs into a comment or paragraph
> - then somehow turn it into a proper text.
>
> Lots of work to do... feel free to help out. Please :)
>
> cya
> Craig
>
>
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