From jluc at no-log.org  Mon Sep  1 14:21:37 2014
From: jluc at no-log.org (JLuc)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:21:37 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Translation discussion: "Back to previous version"
In-Reply-To: <CAAt0FRh1sERfshw4SY3aDEb9oj8udHjAf6Mw2YCGBBNQi85JFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAt0FRh1sERfshw4SY3aDEb9oj8udHjAf6Mw2YCGBBNQi85JFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <lu1vdh$ucl$1@ger.gmane.org>

Le 23/08/2014 14:48, Kunda Loves Scribus a ?crit :
> Jluc brings up a good point here: http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12055
>
> Title: "Back to previous version" label should rather be "Back to saved version" or "Restore from saved version"

The issue with "back to previous version" is that "version" is not precisely defined.

Is "previous version" the version prior to last action ?
-> that's "undo"
Is "previous version" the last saved-on-disk version ?
-> that's "Back to saved version" or "Restore from saved version"
Is "previous version" the previous of some specific version management system ?
-> that'd be something else...

"Back to saved version" or "Restore from saved version" says precisely what it enables to do.
JL




From ale.comp_06 at xox.ch  Mon Sep  1 15:02:38 2014
From: ale.comp_06 at xox.ch (a.l.e)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 17:02:38 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Translation discussion: "Back to previous version"
In-Reply-To: <lu1vdh$ucl$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <CAAt0FRh1sERfshw4SY3aDEb9oj8udHjAf6Mw2YCGBBNQi85JFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <lu1vdh$ucl$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <54048A8E.4020005@xox.ch>

hi

here my proposal.

simply "Saved version".

and make it undoable or make sure that a big fat confirmation message is 
asking if you want to lose the changes you did in the n last minutes...

(btw, the question should be clear and the buttons labelled "yes" and 
"no", not "cancel" and "restore" :-)

sorry, i haven't checked how it is implemented right now.

ciao
a.l.e


> Le 23/08/2014 14:48, Kunda Loves Scribus a ?crit :
>> Jluc brings up a good point here: 
>> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12055
>>
>> Title: "Back to previous version" label should rather be "Back to 
>> saved version" or "Restore from saved version"
>
> The issue with "back to previous version" is that "version" is not 
> precisely defined.
>
> Is "previous version" the version prior to last action ?
> -> that's "undo"
> Is "previous version" the last saved-on-disk version ?
> -> that's "Back to saved version" or "Restore from saved version"
> Is "previous version" the previous of some specific version management 
> system ?
> -> that'd be something else...
>
> "Back to saved version" or "Restore from saved version" says precisely 
> what it enables to do.
> JL
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> scribus-dev mailing list
> scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev



From jluc at no-log.org  Mon Sep  1 16:34:35 2014
From: jluc at no-log.org (JLuc)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:34:35 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] edit path in inkscape
Message-ID: <lu276r$5ju$1@ger.gmane.org>

https://plus.google.com/108911244660285152681/posts/Mdw3eaJduBP
says :
"Fellow developers in the +mypaint project implemented vector layers
in their painting application and made it possible to edit these layers
with e.g. Inkscape. Expect that in the next release of MyPaint.?"

Would that type of feature not suite some scribus objects too ?

JLuc



From gpittman at iglou.com  Tue Sep  2 01:10:52 2014
From: gpittman at iglou.com (Gregory Pittman)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:10:52 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] edit path in inkscape
In-Reply-To: <lu276r$5ju$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <lu276r$5ju$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <5405191C.3050301@iglou.com>

On 09/01/2014 12:34 PM, JLuc wrote:
> https://plus.google.com/108911244660285152681/posts/Mdw3eaJduBP
> says :
> "Fellow developers in the +mypaint project implemented vector layers
> in their painting application and made it possible to edit these layers
> with e.g. Inkscape. Expect that in the next release of MyPaint.?"
>
> Would that type of feature not suite some scribus objects too ?
>
Scribus can already edit vectors. It remains to be seen whether this 
implementation will allow Scribus to edit.

Greg


From scribus.user at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 17:40:32 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:40:32 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Translation discussion: "Back to previous version"
In-Reply-To: <54048A8E.4020005@xox.ch>
References: <CAAt0FRh1sERfshw4SY3aDEb9oj8udHjAf6Mw2YCGBBNQi85JFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <lu1vdh$ucl$1@ger.gmane.org> <54048A8E.4020005@xox.ch>
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRgKcGH4UatfBrqJ-grKU9Sz8BJV3CM8fe9jSxpxmSSNVw@mail.gmail.com>

We're talking about 'autosave' here, right?
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From cbradney at scribus.info  Tue Sep  2 17:50:42 2014
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 19:50:42 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Translation discussion: "Back to previous version"
In-Reply-To: <CAAt0FRgKcGH4UatfBrqJ-grKU9Sz8BJV3CM8fe9jSxpxmSSNVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAt0FRh1sERfshw4SY3aDEb9oj8udHjAf6Mw2YCGBBNQi85JFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <lu1vdh$ucl$1@ger.gmane.org> <54048A8E.4020005@xox.ch>
 <CAAt0FRgKcGH4UatfBrqJ-grKU9Sz8BJV3CM8fe9jSxpxmSSNVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54060372.8010702@scribus.info>

On 2/09/2014 7:40 pm, Kunda Loves Scribus wrote:
> We're talking about 'autosave' here, right?
> 

I haven't followed this conversation but returning to the previous saved version has nothing
specifically to do with autosave.

Craig



From jluc at no-log.org  Tue Sep  2 18:46:05 2014
From: jluc at no-log.org (JLuc)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 20:46:05 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Translation discussion: "Back to previous version"
In-Reply-To: <54060372.8010702@scribus.info>
References: <CAAt0FRh1sERfshw4SY3aDEb9oj8udHjAf6Mw2YCGBBNQi85JFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <lu1vdh$ucl$1@ger.gmane.org> <54048A8E.4020005@xox.ch>
 <CAAt0FRgKcGH4UatfBrqJ-grKU9Sz8BJV3CM8fe9jSxpxmSSNVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <54060372.8010702@scribus.info>
Message-ID: <lu539d$gd3$1@ger.gmane.org>

Le 02/09/2014 19:50, Craig Bradney a ?crit :
> On 2/09/2014 7:40 pm, Kunda Loves Scribus wrote:
>> We're talking about 'autosave' here, right?
>>
>
> I haven't followed this conversation but returning to the previous saved version has nothing
> specifically to do with autosave.

This confusion would be avoided with one of the proposed appropriate rewording.
That's the point.

JLuc



From scribus.user at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 16:04:52 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:04:52 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Request to test #12608 & #12595
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRjHuy1R8jJAZL+A=sBOq8LiCt1wUyUVKHCVXymTn2LqVA@mail.gmail.com>

http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12608

http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12595

Please add your feedback to the issue in Mantis

Thanks!
/Kunda
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From jluc at no-log.org  Fri Sep  5 15:58:18 2014
From: jluc at no-log.org (JLuc)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 17:58:18 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Disaster DEL key
Message-ID: <lucmiq$bgt$1@ger.gmane.org>

It looks like rev 19294
http://scribus.net/websvn/comp.php?repname=Scribus&compare[]=/trunk/@19293&compare[]=/trunk/@19294
introduced a sometime very painfull issue.

When editing the content of a text frame, DEL deletes the frame itself.

http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12498 describe some specific situations where it happens,
but it happens in other random cases, and depending on the machine it can happen very often
in allmost all DEL text frame edit mode uses.

ATM, solution for user seems to use scribus Preferences so as to not bind DEL to OBJECT > DELETE
(one can suppress the binding, or bind CTRL+DEL or SHIFT+DEL instead)

So as to fix the code, it could be that the "Object delete" action
on a frame should first check that scribus is not in "Content edit" mode.

JL



From jluc at no-log.org  Fri Sep  5 17:18:50 2014
From: jluc at no-log.org (JLuc)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 19:18:50 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Disaster DEL key
In-Reply-To: <lucmiq$bgt$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <lucmiq$bgt$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <lucr9r$6sn$1@ger.gmane.org>

Le 05/09/2014 17:58, JLuc a ?crit :
> It looks like rev 19294
> http://scribus.net/websvn/comp.php?repname=Scribus&compare[]=/trunk/@19293&compare[]=/trunk/@19294
> introduced a sometime very painfull issue.
>
> When editing the content of a text frame, DEL deletes the frame itself.
>
> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12498 describe some specific situations where it happens,
> but it happens in other random cases, and depending on the machine it can happen very often
> in allmost all DEL text frame edit mode uses.
>
> ATM, solution for user seems to use scribus Preferences so as to not bind DEL to OBJECT > DELETE
> (one can suppress the binding, or bind CTRL+DEL or SHIFT+DEL instead)

Note that even when the binding is deleted in the preferences,
when not in text edit mode, the DEL key deletes the frame as it should.
So this binding seems to be ALSO hardcoded somewhere.

> So as to fix the code, it could be that the "Object delete" action
> on a frame should first check that scribus is not in "Content edit" mode.
>
> JL




From gpittman at iglou.com  Fri Sep  5 21:07:56 2014
From: gpittman at iglou.com (Gregory Pittman)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 17:07:56 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] Disaster DEL key
In-Reply-To: <lucr9r$6sn$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <lucmiq$bgt$1@ger.gmane.org> <lucr9r$6sn$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <540A262C.1010504@iglou.com>

On 09/05/2014 01:18 PM, JLuc wrote:
> Le 05/09/2014 17:58, JLuc a ?crit :
>> It looks like rev 19294
>> http://scribus.net/websvn/comp.php?repname=Scribus&compare[]=/trunk/@19293&compare[]=/trunk/@19294
>>
>> introduced a sometime very painfull issue.
>>
>> When editing the content of a text frame, DEL deletes the frame itself.
>>
>> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12498 describe some specific
>> situations where it happens,
>> but it happens in other random cases, and depending on the machine it
>> can happen very often
>> in allmost all DEL text frame edit mode uses.
>>
>> ATM, solution for user seems to use scribus Preferences so as to not
>> bind DEL to OBJECT > DELETE
>> (one can suppress the binding, or bind CTRL+DEL or SHIFT+DEL instead)
> 
> Note that even when the binding is deleted in the preferences,
> when not in text edit mode, the DEL key deletes the frame as it should.
> So this binding seems to be ALSO hardcoded somewhere.
> 
>> So as to fix the code, it could be that the "Object delete" action
>> on a frame should first check that scribus is not in "Content edit" mode.
>>

I can't reproduce this on my machine (a Lenovo laptop) running Fedora
20, trying the various circumstances mentioned in the bug report.

Greg



From rcook at pcug.org.au  Sat Sep  6 00:17:01 2014
From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 10:17:01 +1000
Subject: [scribus-dev] libpagemaker
Message-ID: <20140906101701.45df25e4@lm16>

I just tried building 19477 with libpagemaker, but it failed, (unable to
locate pmd)

Would I be correct in assuming libpagemaker is not ready for prime time?

The other three librevenge items, libmspub, libvisio and libcdr are no
problem

TIA


Owen


From christoph-schaefer at gmx.de  Sat Sep  6 05:18:28 2014
From: christoph-schaefer at gmx.de (=?UTF-8?Q?=22Christoph_Sch=C3=A4fer=22?=)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 07:18:28 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] libpagemaker
In-Reply-To: <20140906101701.45df25e4@lm16>
References: <20140906101701.45df25e4@lm16>
Message-ID: <trinity-14c12357-3670-4219-8d80-d90dcf459667-1409980708330@3capp-gmx-bs09>

> Gesendet: Samstag, 06. September 2014 um 02:17 Uhr
> Von: Owen <rcook at pcug.org.au>
> An: scribus-dev at lists.scribus.info
> Betreff: [scribus-dev] libpagemaker
>
> I just tried building 19477 with libpagemaker, but it failed, (unable to
> locate pmd)
> 
> Would I be correct in assuming libpagemaker is not ready for prime time?
> 
> The other three librevenge items, libmspub, libvisio and libcdr are no
> problem
> 

Hi Owen,

1) Did you run ldconfig as root after compiling and installing libpagemaker?

2) Have you deleted CMakeCache.txt before running CMake? You always need to do this when files have been added to Scribus. An addition is always indicated by an "A" in the shell, whereas changes to existing files use a "U". Whenever you see an "A" in your favourite CLI after updating SVN, you *must* delete CMakeCache.txt before you run CMake.


HTH,

Christoph


From jluc at no-log.org  Sat Sep  6 09:33:58 2014
From: jluc at no-log.org (JLuc)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 11:33:58 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Disaster DEL key
In-Reply-To: <lucr9r$6sn$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <lucmiq$bgt$1@ger.gmane.org> <lucr9r$6sn$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <lueke7$l81$1@ger.gmane.org>

Le 05/09/2014 19:18, JLuc a ?crit :
> Note that even when the binding is deleted in the preferences,
> when not in text edit mode, the DEL key deletes the frame as it should.
> So this binding seems to be ALSO hardcoded somewhere.

And thus, having both a hardcoded DEL key detection,
leading to some A action,
AND a Preferences managed one, leading to a B action,
that is possibly different of the A action,
is ... bound ... to cause issues.

Detection of the event and event management leading to trigger A or B
depends on how the event bubbles through the event stack flow.
This might depends on the OS or on other environnement factors.
Hence, bug are not allways reproduced.
But when discussing this on IRC, all 3 of us (firash, ale and me)
were hitting this issue with various damage magnitudes.

JL



From rcook at pcug.org.au  Sun Sep  7 01:07:54 2014
From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 11:07:54 +1000
Subject: [scribus-dev] libpagemaker
Message-ID: <bf53f7797adeaae9831d87e72b7c8b6d.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>

>> Gesendet: Samstag, 06. September 2014 um 02:17 Uhr
>> Von: Owen <rcook at pcug.org.au>
>> An: scribus-dev at lists.scribus.info
>> Betreff: [scribus-dev] libpagemaker
>> I just tried building 19477 with libpagemaker, but it failed,
>> (unable to
>> locate pmd)
>> Would I be correct in assuming libpagemaker is not ready for prime
time?
>> The other three librevenge items, libmspub, libvisio and libcdr are no
>> problem
> Hi Owen,
> 1) Did you run ldconfig as root after compiling and installing
> libpagemaker?
> 2) Have you deleted CMakeCache.txt before running CMake? You always
need to do this when files have been added to Scribus. An addition
is
> always indicated by an "A" in the shell, whereas changes to existing
files use a "U". Whenever you see an "A" in your favourite CLI after
updating SVN, you *must* delete CMakeCache.txt before you run CMake.
HTH,




Thanks for replying, built from a clean build directory on a fairly up
to date debian system.

This is the error I get with rev 19487

Not important to me and it might sort itself out in the fullness of
time. Have yet to try it on SUSE



[ 83%] Building CXX object
scribus/plugins/import/pm/CMakeFiles/importpm.dir/importpm.cpp.o
[ 83%] Building CXX object
scribus/plugins/import/pm/CMakeFiles/importpm.dir/importpmplugin.cpp.o
[ 83%] Building CXX object
scribus/plugins/import/pm/CMakeFiles/importpm.dir/moc_importpm.cpp.o [
83%] Building CXX object
scribus/plugins/import/pm/CMakeFiles/importpm.dir/moc_importpmplugin.cpp.o
Linking CXX shared module libimportpm.so
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpmd-0.0
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpmd-0.0
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [scribus/plugins/import/pm/libimportpm.so] Error 1
make[1]: *** [scribus/plugins/import/pm/CMakeFiles/importpm.dir/all]
Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2


-- 
Owen






From williambader at hotmail.com  Sun Sep  7 01:46:38 2014
From: williambader at hotmail.com (William Bader)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 21:46:38 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] Request to test #12608 & #12595
In-Reply-To: <CAAt0FRjHuy1R8jJAZL+A=sBOq8LiCt1wUyUVKHCVXymTn2LqVA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAt0FRjHuy1R8jJAZL+A=sBOq8LiCt1wUyUVKHCVXymTn2LqVA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU179-W75773D942BB9A77AB06612C4C00@phx.gbl>




> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12608

> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12595




> Please add your feedback to the issue in Mantis
I added a patch to the mantis entry for 12595
William 		 	   		  
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From scribus.user at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 01:23:47 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 20:23:47 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Request to test #12608 & #12595
In-Reply-To: <BLU179-W75773D942BB9A77AB06612C4C00@phx.gbl>
References: <CAAt0FRjHuy1R8jJAZL+A=sBOq8LiCt1wUyUVKHCVXymTn2LqVA@mail.gmail.com>
 <BLU179-W75773D942BB9A77AB06612C4C00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRjSSTBg7DVnOAHrd97h+BDFeJ3uz_Ymv8zNT2ibhg9n6A@mail.gmail.com>

>
> > http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12608
>
> > http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12595
>
> > Please add your feedback to the issue in Mantis
>
> I added a patch to the mantis entry for 12595
>
> William
>

Thanks William!
/Kunda
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From scribus.user at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 02:41:48 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:41:48 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Request for testers: #12673 on Ubuntu 12.04 using
	scribus 1.4.5 and 1.5svn
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRhtznoLKN3AMmT8WUkxi1d+8CoAebrPbSp27w+reLTkSA@mail.gmail.com>

http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12673
Please leave comments on Mantis. Thanks everybody!

Cheers,
Kunda
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From scribus.user at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 02:56:13 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:56:13 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Heads-Up: Mass change of severity status from
 relevant 'crash' bugs to 'blocker'
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRgE2-zJNnrjmdvw9C2b2haSWcZNU31BEWzsu663wKH6RA@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry for the mass change to Mantis. It was the right thing to do since
legitimately all bonafide crash bugs are 1.5.0 blockers.

As a result now it's possible to display the following wiki page correctly:
http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/1.5_Blockers

Cheers,
/Kunda
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From cbradney at scribus.info  Thu Sep 11 05:37:52 2014
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:37:52 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Heads-Up: Mass change of severity status from
 relevant 'crash' bugs to 'blocker'
In-Reply-To: <CAAt0FRgE2-zJNnrjmdvw9C2b2haSWcZNU31BEWzsu663wKH6RA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAt0FRgE2-zJNnrjmdvw9C2b2haSWcZNU31BEWzsu663wKH6RA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54113530.4060609@scribus.info>

On 11/09/2014 4:56 am, Kunda Loves Scribus wrote:
> Sorry for the mass change to Mantis. It was the right thing to do since legitimately all bonafide
> crash bugs are 1.5.0 blockers. 
> 
> As a result now it's possible to display the following wiki page correctly:
> http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/1.5_Blockers 
> 

Lets say they are 1.5.x blockers. We might not have the resources to get them all fixed this year
but we still want to release 1.5.0 this year, I think. Some of them induce other important work,
like the appmode switching clean up I've just done a major portion of.

Thanks anyway, let's see where we get to.. and thanks for the big efforts you've made.

Craig



From jluc at no-log.org  Thu Sep 11 06:26:26 2014
From: jluc at no-log.org (JLuc)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:26:26 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Request for testers: #12673 on Ubuntu 12.04 using
 scribus 1.4.5 and 1.5svn
In-Reply-To: <CAAt0FRhtznoLKN3AMmT8WUkxi1d+8CoAebrPbSp27w+reLTkSA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAt0FRhtznoLKN3AMmT8WUkxi1d+8CoAebrPbSp27w+reLTkSA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <lurfai$qve$1@ger.gmane.org>

Le 11/09/2014 04:41, Kunda Loves Scribus a ?crit :
> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12673
> Please leave comments on Mantis. Thanks everybody!

Please note that Ubuntu 14.04 now supersedes Ubuntu 12.04.

JL



From mattia at mapreri.org  Thu Sep 11 12:12:54 2014
From: mattia at mapreri.org (Mattia Rizzolo)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:12:54 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Request for testers: #12673 on Ubuntu 12.04 using
 scribus 1.4.5 and 1.5svn
In-Reply-To: <lurfai$qve$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <CAAt0FRhtznoLKN3AMmT8WUkxi1d+8CoAebrPbSp27w+reLTkSA@mail.gmail.com>
 <lurfai$qve$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <CAHKYmesy0jaXbjMRuyGD2gHCcC73CR_Cz3pUWtgNXRwyfBOEww@mail.gmail.com>

On Sep 11, 2014 8:26 AM, "JLuc" <jluc at no-log.org> wrote:
>
> Le 11/09/2014 04:41, Kunda Loves Scribus a ?crit :
>
>> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12673
>> Please leave comments on Mantis. Thanks everybody!
>
>
> Please note that Ubuntu 14.04 now supersedes Ubuntu 12.04.
>

Not really: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is supported for five years, i.e. till 2017.
14.04 till 2019.
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From scribus.user at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 12:55:48 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:55:48 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Heads-Up: Mass change of severity status from
 relevant 'crash' bugs to 'blocker'
In-Reply-To: <54113530.4060609@scribus.info>
References: <CAAt0FRgE2-zJNnrjmdvw9C2b2haSWcZNU31BEWzsu663wKH6RA@mail.gmail.com>
 <54113530.4060609@scribus.info>
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRj0Q9E2+mcr1qXZSK_rVP1CpyAqTPWSq5-8EOY7QrBZ=A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Craig Bradney <cbradney at scribus.info>
wrote:

> On 11/09/2014 4:56 am, Kunda Loves Scribus wrote:
> > Sorry for the mass change to Mantis. It was the right thing to do since
> legitimately all bonafide
> > crash bugs are 1.5.0 blockers.
> >
> > As a result now it's possible to display the following wiki page
> correctly:
> > http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/1.5_Blockers
> >
>
> Lets say they are 1.5.x blockers. We might not have the resources to get
> them all fixed this year
> but we still want to release 1.5.0 this year, I think. Some of them induce
> other important work,
> like the appmode switching clean up I've just done a major portion of.
>
> Thanks anyway, let's see where we get to.. and thanks for the big efforts
> you've made.
>
> Craig
>

Craig,
A-OK, that makes total sense.
Then the next step perhaps is to identify specifically what aren't v1.5.0
blockers and label them accordingly?

Thanks for the acknowledgement.

Cheers,
/Kunda
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From scribus.user at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 13:16:24 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:16:24 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Testers: Can anyone reproduce #9666
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRi5o93ejeHroYWiYPDMBJp=T9p9_HyJi6Mj1_6uUeb6Mw@mail.gmail.com>

"Scribus crashes when trying to access the properties of a non-connected
printer"

http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=9666

The OP filed the report on WinXP. This may be platform specific?

Cheers,
/Kunda
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From cbradney at scribus.info  Thu Sep 11 14:14:24 2014
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:14:24 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] Testers: Can anyone reproduce #9666
In-Reply-To: <CAAt0FRi5o93ejeHroYWiYPDMBJp=T9p9_HyJi6Mj1_6uUeb6Mw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAt0FRi5o93ejeHroYWiYPDMBJp=T9p9_HyJi6Mj1_6uUeb6Mw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A4889797-A839-435A-AB86-86B9F7F31775@scribus.info>

Please assign to me for the first look. I guess it's not platform specific.



> On 11 Sep 2014, at 15:16, Kunda Loves Scribus <scribus.user at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> "Scribus crashes when trying to access the properties of a non-connected printer"
> 
> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=9666
> 
> The OP filed the report on WinXP. This may be platform specific?
> 
> Cheers,
> /Kunda
> _______________________________________________
> scribus-dev mailing list
> scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev
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From scribus.user at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 15:57:48 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:57:48 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Testers: Can anyone reproduce #9666
In-Reply-To: <A4889797-A839-435A-AB86-86B9F7F31775@scribus.info>
References: <CAAt0FRi5o93ejeHroYWiYPDMBJp=T9p9_HyJi6Mj1_6uUeb6Mw@mail.gmail.com>
 <A4889797-A839-435A-AB86-86B9F7F31775@scribus.info>
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRhgOsBxNpmb2fuuXCAdukQ0+0X7x_SU2mQ74vkNTOcwhA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Craig Bradney <cbradney at scribus.info>
wrote:

> Please assign to me for the first look. I guess it's not platform specific.
>

Done
/Kunda
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From waynedpj at in-giro.org  Sat Sep 13 19:29:08 2014
From: waynedpj at in-giro.org (Wayne DePrince Jr.)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:29:08 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] save/export problems with Symbols
Message-ID: <1410636549.16563.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>

ahoy all,

    been having an issue here with Scribus 1.5.0svn slowing down and
eventually freezing on save/export of a not-so-complex doc that uses
Symbols and dependencies between Symbols.  you can read about the
details in the bug report:

http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12688

if anyone is having a similar problems i would be interested to hear if
they are using Symbols and the proposed super simple patch helps as it
does for me.

peace, w

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From williambader at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 14 02:02:14 2014
From: williambader at hotmail.com (William Bader)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:02:14 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] [patch] fix for scribus/appmodehelper.cpp:495:4:
 error: 'scrActions' was not declared in this scope
Message-ID: <BLU179-W36977CA2B9AFD62A7BD271C4CB0@phx.gbl>

When I build the current Scribus 1.5 SVN on Fedora 20, I get a number of compile errors like the ones below.  The attached patch fixes them.
Regards,William Bader, Director of Research and Development, Software Consulting Services, LLC
/tmp/scribus15/scribus/appmodehelper.cpp: In member function 'void AppModeHelper::setFrameEditMode(bool)':
/tmp/scribus15/scribus/appmodehelper.cpp:495:4: error: 'scrActions' was not declared in this scope
  (*scrActions)["toolsPDFAnnot3D"]->setEnabled(b2);
    ^
/tmp/scribus15/scribus/appmodehelper.cpp: In member function 'void AppModeHelper::setSymbolEditMode(bool, ScribusDoc*)':
/tmp/scribus15/scribus/appmodehelper.cpp:540:4: error: 'scrActions' was not declared in this scope
  (*scrActions)["toolsPDFAnnot3D"]->setEnabled(b2);
    ^
 		 	   		  
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From jluc at no-log.org  Sun Sep 14 07:14:45 2014
From: jluc at no-log.org (JLuc)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 09:14:45 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] save/export problems with Symbols
In-Reply-To: <1410636549.16563.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1410636549.16563.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <lv3f95$tan$1@ger.gmane.org>

Le 13/09/2014 21:29, Wayne DePrince Jr. a ?crit :
> been having an issue here with Scribus 1.5.0svn slowing down and eventually freezing on save/export of a
> not-so-complex doc that uses Symbols and dependencies between Symbols.  you can read about the details in the bug report:
> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12688
> if anyone is having a similar problems i would be interested to hear if they are using Symbols and the proposed super
> simple patch helps as it does for me.

it looks like your patch has inspired a fix : http://scribus.net/websvn/listing.php?repname=Scribus&sc=1&rev=19504

 > peace, w

yeah !
JL




From cbradney at scribus.info  Sun Sep 14 07:19:21 2014
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 09:19:21 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] [patch] fix for scribus/appmodehelper.cpp:495:4:
 error: 'scrActions' was not declared in this scope
In-Reply-To: <BLU179-W36977CA2B9AFD62A7BD271C4CB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU179-W36977CA2B9AFD62A7BD271C4CB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <54154179.5030709@scribus.info>

On 14/09/2014 4:02 am, William Bader wrote:
> When I build the current Scribus 1.5 SVN on Fedora 20, I get a number of compile errors like the
> ones below.  The attached patch fixes them.
> 
> Regards,
> William Bader, Director of Research and Development, Software Consulting Services, LLC
> 
> /tmp/scribus15/scribus/appmodehelper.cpp: In member function 'void
> AppModeHelper::setFrameEditMode(bool)':
> 
> /tmp/scribus15/scribus/appmodehelper.cpp:495:4: error: 'scrActions' was not declared in this scope
> 
>   (*scrActions)["toolsPDFAnnot3D"]->setEnabled(b2);
> 
>     ^
> 
> /tmp/scribus15/scribus/appmodehelper.cpp: In member function 'void
> AppModeHelper::setSymbolEditMode(bool, ScribusDoc*)':
> 
> /tmp/scribus15/scribus/appmodehelper.cpp:540:4: error: 'scrActions' was not declared in this scope
> 
>   (*scrActions)["toolsPDFAnnot3D"]->setEnabled(b2);
> 

Thanks!

Fixed

Craig



From scribus.user at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 16:08:09 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:08:09 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Scripter 'feature' in bugtracker requires community
	feedback
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRj0CDJUoL+=kVxeB5EDMeKx3HBxCd=wj-XztnR-xuL0eg@mail.gmail.com>

Regarding using scripter to copy pages:
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=306 (read the comments here)
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=2826

Verdict ?
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From scribus.user at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 18:43:02 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:43:02 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Request for comment on several bugs
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRhSDF_6vr4rjOtMHtiDs-D0wxWMtrJ9qHtRuQtfC_uPXw@mail.gmail.com>

Please comment on these bugs in the issue tracker:

http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Bugs_to_be_Buried#1._Bugs_to_be_closed

http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Bugs_to_be_Buried#2._Bugs_need_information

Cheers,
/Kunda
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From scribus.user at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 15:04:34 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:04:34 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] Remaining Tooltips that need to be patched
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRgnfCfn-s6EDROwCbB0OoAFCNEAU2O6BZCP5PWEjiiGfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sending this as a request to the community (non-core-devs):
Does anyone have time to time for completing the rest of this patch request?
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12585
"Tooltips missing for Toolbar icons (Preview Quality & Visual Appearance)"

Thanks!
/Kunda
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From gpittman at iglou.com  Fri Sep 26 15:55:49 2014
From: gpittman at iglou.com (Gregory Pittman)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:55:49 -0400
Subject: [scribus-dev] Remaining Tooltips that need to be patched
In-Reply-To: <CAAt0FRgnfCfn-s6EDROwCbB0OoAFCNEAU2O6BZCP5PWEjiiGfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAt0FRgnfCfn-s6EDROwCbB0OoAFCNEAU2O6BZCP5PWEjiiGfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54258C85.5040504@iglou.com>

On 09/26/2014 11:04 AM, Kunda Loves Scribus wrote:
> Sending this as a request to the community (non-core-devs):
> Does anyone have time to time for completing the rest of this patch request?
> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12585
> "Tooltips missing for Toolbar icons (Preview Quality & Visual Appearance)"
> 
> Thanks!
> /Kunda
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> scribus-dev mailing list
> scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev
> 
Looks like already fixed in 1.5.0svn.

"Select the image preview quality"

and

"Select the visual appearance of the display. You can choose between
normal and several color blindness forms."

Greg


From scribus.user at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 22:18:58 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:18:58 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] correction needed recent commit r19543
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRhxDDUTFTeebqKrBmd2nATXLokVDEGhYZ+CCj-kjF0x5Q@mail.gmail.com>

 Commit message for r19543 is actually #12733 and not #2733

/Kunda
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From christoph-schaefer at gmx.de  Tue Sep 30 06:46:36 2014
From: christoph-schaefer at gmx.de (=?UTF-8?Q?=22Christoph_Sch=C3=A4fer=22?=)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 08:46:36 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] correction needed recent commit r19543
In-Reply-To: <CAAt0FRhxDDUTFTeebqKrBmd2nATXLokVDEGhYZ+CCj-kjF0x5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAt0FRhxDDUTFTeebqKrBmd2nATXLokVDEGhYZ+CCj-kjF0x5Q@mail.gmail.com>
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From scribus.user at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 18:57:09 2014
From: scribus.user at gmail.com (Kunda Loves Scribus)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:57:09 -0500
Subject: [scribus-dev] correction needed recent commit r19543
In-Reply-To: <trinity-f498aaf0-ed15-4290-8d30-0b25d6cbe9b3-1412059596473@3capp-gmx-bs58>
References: <CAAt0FRhxDDUTFTeebqKrBmd2nATXLokVDEGhYZ+CCj-kjF0x5Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <trinity-f498aaf0-ed15-4290-8d30-0b25d6cbe9b3-1412059596473@3capp-gmx-bs58>
Message-ID: <CAAt0FRjMFQaK+oOZn8ap+CoZ0Li1wRTFXM+owv-pJ9m2MyX4NQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:46 AM, "Christoph Sch?fer" <
christoph-schaefer at gmx.de> wrote:

>
> And? Neither the bugtracker nor the commit list need to follow the rules
> of bureaucracy. Moreover, the developer mailing list and Mantis do record
> any changes reliably (let alone svn). Please don't try to turn Scribus into
> the equivalent of a public agency with obligatory, voluminous and
> unnecessary paper trails.
>
> You can be pedantic when it comes to Scribus itself, or licensing issues
> (I'm infamous for doing so), but we cannot waste our time by introducing
> bureaucratic rules that may suffocate development.
>
> Also: Please use Plain Text, not HTML, for your ML postings.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Christoph
>  *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 30. September 2014 um 00:18 Uhr
> *Von:* "Kunda Loves Scribus" <scribus.user at gmail.com>
> *An:* "Scribus Dev Mailing List" <scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net>
> *Betreff:* [scribus-dev] correction needed recent commit r19543
>  Commit message for r19543 is actually #12733 and not #2733
>
> /Kunda
>  _______________________________________________ scribus-dev mailing list
> scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev
>
Hi Christoph,

re: Plain text
I'm usually thinking about such things. Honestly, I'm not fully used to
using this type of ML technology. Sometimes switching from between
different types of lists that exist today can cause some forgetfulness.
These are things that I try to pay attention to as best as possible as
well. As for responding in pure text I need to examine gmail further to see
if I can specify that. Will look in to it. I'm pretty sure that reply to
this email will _not_ send it in plain text. For just this moment forgive
me for doing so.

re: bureaucracy
I see. Given your response I can feel that this is an important issue for
you and therefore I'm noting your position on it for future considerations.
Though I am pretty certain that my intention for pointing out what I was
pointing out was purely out of 'future friendly' concern. In other words,
to be able to correctly and efficiently track down the correct revisions
based on the commit message. Also, I was following the intelligent behavior
that has been modeled and that I've learned to appreciate existing in the
SVN commit process.

Just to be clear, I have no intention of asserting my ego, quirks, or
privileges on anybody let alone 'suffocate development' or introduce
unneeded protocols. I, just like all of us who participate, want to see
Scribus succeed.

Now if you see behavior that you'd prefer me to reflect on and change I
would be willing to listen and examine your feedback.

I am in agreement with you to keep Scribus as free as possible from
bureaucracy.

Thank you,
/Kunda
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From cbradney at scribus.info  Tue Sep 30 20:18:30 2014
From: cbradney at scribus.info (Craig Bradney)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:18:30 +0200
Subject: [scribus-dev] correction needed recent commit r19543
In-Reply-To: <CAAt0FRjMFQaK+oOZn8ap+CoZ0Li1wRTFXM+owv-pJ9m2MyX4NQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAt0FRhxDDUTFTeebqKrBmd2nATXLokVDEGhYZ+CCj-kjF0x5Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <trinity-f498aaf0-ed15-4290-8d30-0b25d6cbe9b3-1412059596473@3capp-gmx-bs58>
 <CAAt0FRjMFQaK+oOZn8ap+CoZ0Li1wRTFXM+owv-pJ9m2MyX4NQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <542B1016.4040809@scribus.info>

On 30/09/2014 8:57 pm, Kunda Loves Scribus wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:46 AM, "Christoph Sch?fer" <christoph-schaefer at gmx.de
> <mailto:christoph-schaefer at gmx.de>> wrote:
> 
>      
>     And? Neither the bugtracker nor the commit list need to follow the rules of bureaucracy.
>     Moreover, the developer mailing list and Mantis do record any changes reliably (let alone svn).
>     Please don't try to turn Scribus into the equivalent of a public agency with obligatory,
>     voluminous and unnecessary paper trails.
>      
>     You can be pedantic when it comes to Scribus itself, or licensing issues (I'm infamous for doing
>     so), but we cannot waste our time by introducing bureaucratic rules that may suffocate development.
>      
>     Also: Please use Plain Text, not HTML, for your ML postings.
>      
>     Kind regards,
>      
>     Christoph
>     *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 30. September 2014 um 00:18 Uhr
>     *Von:* "Kunda Loves Scribus" <scribus.user at gmail.com <mailto:scribus.user at gmail.com>>
>     *An:* "Scribus Dev Mailing List" <scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net
>     <mailto:scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net>>
>     *Betreff:* [scribus-dev] correction needed recent commit r19543
>     Commit message for r19543 is actually #12733 and not #2733
>      
>     /Kunda
>     _______________________________________________ scribus-dev mailing list
>     scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net <mailto:scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net>
>     http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus-dev
> 
> Hi Christoph,
> 
> re: Plain text
> I'm usually thinking about such things. Honestly, I'm not fully used to using this type of ML
> technology. Sometimes switching from between different types of lists that exist today can cause
> some forgetfulness. These are things that I try to pay attention to as best as possible as well. As
> for responding in pure text I need to examine gmail further to see if I can specify that. Will look
> in to it. I'm pretty sure that reply to this email will _not_ send it in plain text. For just this
> moment forgive me for doing so. 
> 
> re: bureaucracy
> I see. Given your response I can feel that this is an important issue for you and therefore I'm
> noting your position on it for future considerations. Though I am pretty certain that my intention
> for pointing out what I was pointing out was purely out of 'future friendly' concern. In other
> words, to be able to correctly and efficiently track down the correct revisions based on the commit
> message. Also, I was following the intelligent behavior that has been modeled and that I've learned
> to appreciate existing in the SVN commit process. 
> 
> Just to be clear, I have no intention of asserting my ego, quirks, or privileges on anybody let
> alone 'suffocate development' or introduce unneeded protocols. I, just like all of us who
> participate, want to see Scribus succeed. 
> 
> Now if you see behavior that you'd prefer me to reflect on and change I would be willing to listen
> and examine your feedback. 
> 
> I am in agreement with you to keep Scribus as free as possible from bureaucracy. 
> 
> Thank you,
> /Kunda 

Kunda - Please ignore Christoph in this case. :)

Christoph - lay off the war path :)

Everyone - go fix a bug will ya! :)

Craig



