yes indeed, I have a compaq laptop p-2 266mhz with 64 mb. too slow, eh? the kde-cygwin site fairly bristles with obstacles -- tank traps?? (:-( BTW, Micro$soft has announced UNIX services for Windows. It used to be $99, now free. Besides I only have 4 (four) G of disk. Sigh.. bart at solozone.com