[Scribus] Restricted documentation license (was: a different kind of Scribus reference)

[gregor FELLENZ]

On Fr, 2006-04-21 at 14:35 +0200, Christoph Sch?fer wrote:
> Am Freitag, 21. April 2006 13:15 schrieb Craig Bradney:
> > On Friday 21 April 2006 11:23, PLinnell wrote:
> > > On Friday 21 April 2006 10:39, Brian Burger wrote:> On 4/21/06, Helmut
> > > Wollmersdorfer <helmut.wollmersdorfer at gmx.at> wrote:> > Christoph Sch?fer
> > > wrote:> > > The licence allows free distribution, including translation,>
> > > >
> > >
> > > > but has> >> > some> >> > > restrictions regarding reformed German
> > >
> > > spelling, notifications> > > to the> >> > author> >> > > (i. e. me) if
> > > any major changes are applied, and another> > > restriction> >> > with>
> > > >> > > respect to commercial printing.> >> > Be aware, that such
> > > restricted licenses are the reason, why> > scribus-doc is deleted from
> > > the package in the official Debian> > distribution.> >> > See:> >> > $
> > > apt-cache show scribus-doc> > Package: scribus-doc> > Priority: optional>
> > > > Section: non-free/doc> >           ^^^^^^^^> >> > This means, that
> > > scribus-doc is not installable without changing> > the default
> > > repositories, and also is not delivered on official> > Debian-CDs.>>
> > > Interesting - there is no "scribus-doc" package at all in Ubuntu> 5.10,
> > > and when I start Scribus 1.2.2.1 and go Help->Scribus Manual,> all I get
> > > is a blank help window with "Sorry, no manual available!> Please see:
> > > http://docs.scribus.net for updated docs and> www.scribus.net for
> > > downloads." in it.>> Is this because of the license, or something else?
> > > (I'm running> Ubuntu w/ Gnome, not Kubuntu w/ KDE, for example...)>>
> > > Brian. Hi,
> > > I do not know, you would need to ask the Ubuntu folks, but one of the
> > > first things we do for almost any visitor to IRC using Ubuntu to add our
> > > repo, so that users can replace 1.2.2.1 with 1.2.4.1, which is more
> > > feature complete and more stable than even 1.2.2.1. Also, for Ubuntu
> > > users, I have added an FAQ section here:
> > > http://www.scribus.net/admin.php?module=FAQ&op=FaqCatGo&id_cat=13 Cheers,
> > > Peter
> >
> > The point is that Christoph who is writing that document doesn't like the
> > new German spelling rules so he doesn't want anyone to change it.
> 
> If I only didn't like them, I probably wouldn't have added that clause. The 
> point is, the spelling reform was intended as a test case for the state: How 
> far can we go in imposing our will to the people? If we can force them to 
> write in a new way and in a way they don't want to write, we can enforce 
> almost everything else. I didn't invent that, they said it in public. The 
> politicians even acknowledged that the reform was a grave mistake, but they 
> don't retract it, because "reason of state" doesn't permit! So this is not 
> only about the damage brought to an established culture, it's also about 
> democracy and law. If you look at it this way, I want to keep the docs "free" 
> from rules imposed by authoritarian politicians, since freedom also means to 
> say "no".
you've all the right to say no or whatever you want, but just for clarification 
the reformed spelling was implemented from a more or less democratic empowered group,
namely the kultusministerkonferenz. before that the rules were set by the  
comercial (!) publishing house duden verlag. 
to believe that there was any bit of freedom in how you write in old
spelling is just not true. 

but anyway there is a lovely side effect: in fact spelling in germany is
going to be really anarchic as everybody, despite the state and
comercials, is just writing how they want.
intended or not, i really appreciate  the current state of spelling.

cheers,
gregor  
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gregor FELLENZ <gf_public at gmx.net>