[scribus] How do you handle boxes for headlines?

Gregory Pittman gpittman at iglou.com
Wed Dec 17 14:06:59 CET 2008


Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> Gregory Pittman schrieb:
>> Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> just a question to the professionals who have to manage longer 
>>> documents:
>>>
>>> When you have a lot of headlines with colored boxes under the 
>>> letters, how do you handle this in practice? I'm thinking of the 
>>> style of a language learning book with chapters and sub-chapters 
>>> dividing the page into several sections by a thick colored bar with 
>>> the chapter's headline on it, like this:
>>>
>>> |----------------
>>> |2.1  Headline
>>> |----------------
>>>
>>> I would need the same box being reproduced for each header. Do you 
>>> just copy/paste, or is there some more intimate trick for it? Do you 
>>> use a separate box/text, or would you use a single colored textbox 
>>> for it? And is it possible to make an anchor to the text to keep the 
>>> box fixed to its headline?
>>>
>>> This is my solution so far: I make two layers, on layer 1 I set the 
>>> text, and on layer 0 I set the boxes afterwards. With copy/paste I 
>>> can reproduce the same box sizes.
>>>
>>> What I cannot achieve is positioning the boxes exactly in relation 
>>> to the headlines so it looks like they really belong together on 
>>> each page again. And if the text changes, the boxes may be on a 
>>> completely wrong position.
>>>
>>> So, how do you handle this?
>> The short answer is maybe not the way you would like, but here is a 
>> potential answer: inline "graphics".
>>
>> Check out this video by Tsoots:
>>
>> http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Scribus_Video_Tutorials#Creating_bullet_lists 
>>
>>
>> in which you will see that there is a way to paste these little 
>> flower graphics into a text frame. While it might seem unrelated or 
>> unhelpful, you need to realize that this little flower could have 
>> been a small text frame with embellishments, maybe even a grouped 
>> object (haven't tried that extension yet). So what you can do is make 
>> your chapter heading in its own text frame, copy it (Ctrl+C), then 
>> paste it into your text frame, after which if you add or remove text 
>> from that frame, this inline graphic of sorts will keep its relative 
>> position.
>>
>> I hope I'm explaining this in a way you can understand...let me know 
>> if it isn't clear.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> that is brilliant! It runs quite well at a first glance, so thank you 
> for that idea.
>
> But now I've found a second item I've got a question about: How can 
> one keep the text with a certain distance from its text box upper 
> edge? You know, if you include a distance from the paragraph, this 
> applies on paragraphs standing before, but not on the text box. The 
> text will always begin at the ultimate upper edge of the box.
>
> Now, here I'll have to be able to place the text somewhat in the 
> middle of the box (vertically) to look nice.
>
> Do you have any idea for this?
nothing other than suggesting you experiment. You might see whether 
setting the space below and above surrounding paragraphs might be useful.

btw, I did find that this technique works for a grouped object.

Greg




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