[scribus] OT Web tools
John at T4sLtd.co.uk
Wed Jul 9 00:43:04 CEST 2008
John Culleton wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 July 2008 05:18:29 am John Beardmore wrote:
>> Sorry to post off topic !
>> I've been asked to recommend some tools for secondary school
>> e-media teaching.
>> So far I've suggested Gimp, Inkscape and Scribus with a side order
>> of Freemind.
>> They would however like some simple web tools that a school might
>> use under Windows, Linux, and possibly on Macs. We don't want
>> content management or sophisticated AJAX IDEs, just something
>> simple for secondary school pupils to make reasonably modern html.
>>What might be out there ?
>> Many thanks, J/.
> I work in html itself so that the Vim editor, which does syntax
> highlighting for many computer languages (about 100) does well.
> Bluefish is another editor with a stronger emphasis on html.
> Amaya is a more complete html tool that ensures standards-compliant
> All these are available on all three major platforms, although as
> usual Linux is the more friendly environment for Open source
Yes - though this course is e-media rather than programming so I
suspect that tools from a programming environment won't be ideal.
> Quanta Plus is another and Linux-only html development tool. It is
> closely integrated with the KDE desktop, a common GUI on Linux
> machines. It aims to beat all the competition, including
> IMO web design used to be simpler when html was the only
> consideration. It has become more complex and files more verbose with
> the addition of CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) and XHTML encoding.
I'd have thought that CSS would make things smaller, but possibly harder
to understand ?
> With the new approach you really have to learn two languages, html
> and CSS, and maintain two files, the web page proper and the CSS
Yes. I think for this audience we need to avoid 'how it's done' in
favour of 'what can be done'.
> My sites are still crafted the easy way in straight html.
Mine too, but of late we've had somebody do something a little more
stylish. Doesn't half flush out browser layout engine bugs though.
>But I have
> books on the other approach which I read during commercial breaks.
Yes. I've looked a bit at Ajax and had a bit of a stab at developing
some Java based virtual instruments.
Le Monolecte wrote:
> Le mardi 08 juillet 2008 à 14:16 +0200, Craig Bradney a écrit :
>> I wouldn't use anything but Quanta Plus - I have used it for writing
>> websites with it for years. A very good product, and with KDE4 moving
>> to OSX
>> and Windows, it will be 100% cross platform too.
> The same experience than Craig : very good tool using on Ubuntu Linux
> with Gnome, 3 years of good results!
So to sum up, Quanta Plus may be ideal when / if it ports to Windows,
but in the mean time, look at Amaya and Komposer ?
John Beardmore, MSc EDM (Open), B.A. Chem (Oxon), CMIOSH, AIEMA, MEI
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