[scribus] 3 Fold Layout

Steven Dilworth stevenpdilworth at gmail.com
Mon Dec 27 23:18:56 CET 2010


>>use the threefold layout only if you're supposed to send six single
>>pages to your printshop and let them correctly impose the pages.

>>the layout option is only there to define the layout on screen, while
>>working with scribus. it does not affect the pdf-creation.

>>the same applies with the two-fold option: you don't get landscape pages
>>with a guide in the middle but pages shown side by side in scribus: you
>>will have to to impose the generated PDF with a dedicated software if
>>you want to print a brochure.

>>for several practical reasons, you won't probably ever need to produce a
>>three fold brochure by designing single pages, but you're likely to use
>>the two-fold layout for booklets.

>>hope that helps
>>a.l.e

That helps a lot, and it mirrors what I was thinking after I sent this last
night.  So, each page would need to have the math done in advance, based on
the space it would take up in the final product, and set up accordingly.  It
makes sense, but as you say, would probably not be done that way.  It is
easy enough to do a landscape layout, set the guides and margins, and have
at it.  Thanks so much for your response.  It helps a lot!!

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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:55:56 -0700
> From: Chewy <chewycabeza at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [scribus] Template for calendar 2011
> To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
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> On 12/26/10, Vladimir Savic wrote:
> >On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 20:56 -0500, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>
>
>
> > > There is the Calendar Wizard script, which will give you whatever year
> > > you like ...
> \
> Well, all I get is crashes in Mac v. 1.3.9. The calendar wizard doesn't do
> anything but launch a timer cursor (the old wristwatch one); when tried
> again, a blank box in upper left of screen, and on the third try, a crash
> #6.
>
> CC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:03:20 -0500
> From: John Culleton <john at wexfordpress.com>
> Subject: Re: [scribus] Template for calendar 2011
> To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
> Message-ID: <201012262003.20871.john at wexfordpress.com>
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> On Sunday 26 December 2010 16:55:56 Chewy wrote:
> > On 12/26/10, Vladimir Savic wrote:
> > >On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 20:56 -0500, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> > > > There is the Calendar Wizard script, which will give you
> > > > whatever year you like ...
> >
> > \
> > Well, all I get is crashes in Mac v. 1.3.9. The calendar wizard
> > doesn't do anything but launch a timer cursor (the old wristwatch
> > one); when tried again, a blank box in upper left of screen, and on
> > the third try, a crash #6.
> >
> > CC
> >
>
> Scribus and Mac OS seems to be a troublesome combination.
>
> Calendar Wizard worked for me on Linux using 1.3.9 and 1.5.0. I
> haven't figured out how to select the type face, size and style in
> advance. It defaults to the first typeface in alphabetic order, which
> is AGaramond Italic on my machine, not a suitable choice.
>
> After it finishes loading you have to click on it once to get the text
> to appear. Did you do that?
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 02:17:11 +0100
> From: ~suv <suv-sf at users.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [scribus] Template for calendar 2011
> To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
> Message-ID: <4D17E917.6090904 at users.sourceforge.net>
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> On 26/12/10 22:55, Chewy wrote:
> > On 12/26/10, Vladimir Savic wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 20:56 -0500, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> >>> There is the Calendar Wizard script, which will give you whatever
> >>> year you like ...
> >
> > \ Well, all I get is crashes in Mac v. 1.3.9. The calendar wizard
> > doesn't do anything but launch a timer cursor (the old wristwatch
> > one); when tried again, a blank box in upper left of screen, and on
> > the third try, a crash #6.
>
> Reproduced with Scribus 1.3.9 on Mac OS X 10.5.8 (Scribus hangs after
> crashing with #6 and has to be force-quitted).
>
> backtrace:
>
> Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
> 0x901cbe42 in __kill ()
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x901cbe42 in __kill ()
> #1  0x901cbe34 in kill$UNIX2003 ()
> #2  0x9023e23a in raise ()
> #3  0x9024a679 in abort ()
> #4  0x1bd80dd2 in Tcl_PanicVA ()
> #5  0x1bd80ded in Tcl_Panic ()
> #6  0x1be4da84 in GetUtfFaceName ()
> #7  0x1be4efe2 in InitFont ()
> #8  0x1be4f171 in TkpGetNativeFont ()
> #9  0x1bdfdd67 in Tk_AllocFontFromObj ()
> #10 0x1bdf2469 in DoObjConfig ()
> #11 0x1bdf2c53 in Tk_InitOptions ()
> #12 0x1bdd4ea7 in ButtonCreate ()
> #13 0x1bd3a245 in TclEvalObjvInternal ()
> #14 0x1bd3ae55 in Tcl_EvalObjv ()
> #15 0x19bb2097 in Tkapp_CallDeallocArgs ()
> #16 0x02371607 in _PyEval_SliceIndex ()
> #17 0x0237326d in PyEval_EvalCodeEx ()
> #18 0x02333e6c in PyFunction_SetClosure ()
> #19 0x02320828 in PyObject_Call ()
> #20 0x023287af in PyMethod_New ()
> #21 0x02320828 in PyObject_Call ()
> #22 0x023718dc in _PyEval_SliceIndex ()
> #23 0x0237326d in PyEval_EvalCodeEx ()
> #24 0x02333e6c in PyFunction_SetClosure ()
> #25 0x02320828 in PyObject_Call ()
> #26 0x023287af in PyMethod_New ()
> #27 0x02320828 in PyObject_Call ()
> #28 0x0236d6cb in PyEval_CallObjectWithKeywords ()
> #29 0x02324bc7 in PyInstance_New ()
> #30 0x02320828 in PyObject_Call ()
> #31 0x023718dc in _PyEval_SliceIndex ()
> #32 0x0237326d in PyEval_EvalCodeEx ()
> #33 0x02333e6c in PyFunction_SetClosure ()
> #34 0x02320828 in PyObject_Call ()
> #35 0x023287af in PyMethod_New ()
> #36 0x02320828 in PyObject_Call ()
> #37 0x0236d6cb in PyEval_CallObjectWithKeywords ()
> #38 0x02324bc7 in PyInstance_New ()
> #39 0x02320828 in PyObject_Call ()
> #40 0x023718dc in _PyEval_SliceIndex ()
> #41 0x02371771 in _PyEval_SliceIndex ()
> #42 0x0237326d in PyEval_EvalCodeEx ()
> #43 0x0237338c in PyEval_EvalCode ()
> #44 0x0238c2e7 in PyErr_Display ()
> #45 0x02367a26 in _PyUnicodeUCS2_IsNumeric ()
> #46 0x02371607 in _PyEval_SliceIndex ()
> #47 0x0237326d in PyEval_EvalCodeEx ()
> #48 0x0237338c in PyEval_EvalCode ()
> #49 0x0238c2e7 in PyErr_Display ()
> #50 0x18bb042d in ScripterCore::slotRunScriptFile ()
> #51 0x18bb16c7 in ScripterCore::StdScript ()
> #52 0x18bbfb66 in ScripterCore::qt_metacall ()
> #53 0x01e6f832 in QMetaObject::activate ()
> #54 0x0002d5fe in ScrAction::triggeredData ()
> #55 0x0065c2fe in ScrAction::triggeredToTriggeredData ()
> #56 0x0002d7a9 in ScrAction::qt_metacall ()
> #57 0x01e6f832 in QMetaObject::activate ()
> #58 0x0106e8c4 in QAction::triggered ()
> #59 0x0106ff8f in QAction::activate ()
> #60 0x0104df09 in qt_mac_activate_action ()
> #61 0x0104e519 in qt_mac_menu_event ()
> #62 0x90aad13d in DispatchEventToHandlers ()
> #63 0x90aac57b in SendEventToEventTargetInternal ()
> #64 0x90ac8ecc in SendEventToEventTarget ()
> #65 0x90afd1e7 in SendHICommandEvent ()
> #66 0x90b23959 in SendMenuCommandWithContextAndModifiers ()
> #67 0x90b23914 in SendMenuItemSelectedEvent ()
> #68 0x90b2382a in FinishMenuSelection ()
> #69 0x90b00494 in MenuSelectCore ()
> #70 0x90b8f030 in MenuSelect ()
> #71 0x0100ba0a in QApplicationPrivate::globalEventProcessor ()
> #72 0x90aad13d in DispatchEventToHandlers ()
> #73 0x90aac57b in SendEventToEventTargetInternal ()
> #74 0x90ac8ecc in SendEventToEventTarget ()
> #75 0x90adb603 in ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler ()
> #76 0x90aad4f6 in DispatchEventToHandlers ()
> #77 0x90aac57b in SendEventToEventTargetInternal ()
> #78 0x90ac8ecc in SendEventToEventTarget ()
> #79 0x01021c34 in QEventDispatcherMac::processEvents ()
> #80 0x01f4af31 in QEventLoop::processEvents ()
> #81 0x01f4b16d in QEventLoop::exec ()
> #82 0x01f4d49e in QCoreApplication::exec ()
> #83 0x0098bbef in mainApp ()
> #84 0x00006db2 in _start ()
> #85 0x00006cd9 in start ()
> (gdb)
>
>
> ~suv
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:43:06 +1100
> From: "Owen" <rcook at pcug.org.au>
> Subject: Re: [scribus] Template for calendar 2011
> To: "Scribus User Mailing List" <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
> Message-ID: <b1091ff123252421cfaf1d77a0c068d6.squirrel at www.tip.net.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
> > On 26/12/10 22:55, Chewy wrote:
> >> On 12/26/10, Vladimir Savic wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 20:56 -0500, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> >>>> There is the Calendar Wizard script, which will give you whatever
> >>>> year you like ...
> >>
> >> \ Well, all I get is crashes in Mac v. 1.3.9. The calendar wizard
> >> doesn't do anything but launch a timer cursor (the old wristwatch
> >> one); when tried again, a blank box in upper left of screen, and on
> >> the third try, a crash #6.
> >
> > Reproduced with Scribus 1.3.9 on Mac OS X 10.5.8 (Scribus hangs after
> > crashing with #6 and has to be force-quitted).
> >
> > backtrace:
> >
> > Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
> > 0x901cbe42 in __kill ()
> > (gdb) bt
> > #0  0x901cbe42 in __kill ()
> > #1  0x901cbe34 in kill$UNIX2003 ()
> > #2  0x9023e23a in raise ()
> > #3  0x9024a679 in abort ()
> > #4  0x1bd80dd2 in Tcl_PanicVA ()
> > #5  0x1bd80ded in Tcl_Panic ()
> > #6  0x1be4da84 in GetUtfFaceName ()
>
>
>
>
> My uneducated guess is that it went into panic mode because of a font
> problem;
>
> How you solve that on a mac is a problem I leave with you.
>
> /*
>  *-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  *
>  * GetUtfFaceName --
>  *
>  *        Given the native name for a Macintosh font (in which the
> name of
>  *        the font is in the encoding of the font itself), return the
> UTF-8
>  *        name that corresponds to that font.  The specified font name
> must
>  *        refer to a font that actually exists on the machine.
>  *
>  *        This function is used to obtain the UTF-8 name when querying
> the
>  *        properties of a Macintosh font object.
>  *
>  * Results:
>  *        The return value is a pointer to the UTF-8 of the specified
> font.
>  *
>  * Side effects:
>  *        None.
>  *
>  *------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  */
>
>
>
>
> --
> Owen
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 05:15:38 -0500
> From: Steven Dilworth <stevenpdilworth at gmail.com>
> Subject: [scribus] 3 Fold Layout
> To: scribus at lists.scribus.net
> Message-ID:
>        <AANLkTimUc+a52qyX4t4naysBAGz1DFuPAjBm8kTg57fS at mail.gmail.com<AANLkTimUc%2Ba52qyX4t4naysBAGz1DFuPAjBm8kTg57fS at mail.gmail.com>
> >
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>
> Hello,
>
> I found a tutorial on creating a three fold brochure, and it tells how to
> use a single page, set guides etc.  This made no sense to me, as there is a
> three fold layout option, so I just tried selecting the three fold layout
> option, but this just gives me the same set up as a single page.  I do not
> understand.  Why is there a three fold layout option, if the program does
> not automatically give you a page set up with guides, landscape oriented
> for
> a three page 'brochure'?  Or am I just missing something?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
> Using Scribus 1.3.3.14 on WinXP.
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> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:32:19 +0100
> From: "a.l.e" <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch>
> Subject: Re: [scribus] 3 Fold Layout
> To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
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> hi steve,
>
> > I found a tutorial on creating a three fold brochure, and it tells how to
> > use a single page, set guides etc.  This made no sense to me, as there is
> a
> > three fold layout option, so I just tried selecting the three fold layout
> > option, but this just gives me the same set up as a single page.  I do
> not
> > understand.  Why is there a three fold layout option, if the program does
> > not automatically give you a page set up with guides, landscape oriented
> for
> > a three page 'brochure'?  Or am I just missing something?
>
> use the threefold layout only if you're supposed to send six single
> pages to your printshop and let them correctly impose the pages.
>
> the layout option is only there to define the layout on screen, while
> working with scribus. it does not affect the pdf-creation.
>
> the same applies with the two-fold option: you don't get landscape pages
> with a guide in the middle but pages shown side by side in scribus: you
> will have to to impose the generated PDF with a dedicated software if
> you want to print a brochure.
>
> for several practical reasons, you won't probably ever need to produce a
> three fold brochure by designing single pages, but you're likely to use
> the two-fold layout for booklets.
>
> hope that helps
> a.l.e
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 02:45:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Meho R." <meho_r at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [scribus] Template for calendar 2011
> To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
> Message-ID: <101033.36095.qm at web110401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> > From: Vladimir Savic <vladimir.firefly.savic at gmail.com>
> > To: scribus at lists.scribus.net
> > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 5:25:17
> > Subject: Re: [scribus] Template for calendar 2011
> >
> > On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 20:56 -0500, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> > > On 12/25/2010 08:35 PM, Renato Petrovic wrote:
> > > > Hello!
> > > >
> > > > Is there any Scribus-template for calendar 2011?
> > > >
> > > There is the Calendar Wizard script, which will give you whatever year
> > > you like ...
> >
> > Renato,
> > steta sto se nisi javio ranije. ;) Imao bih verovatno motivaciju da
> > napravim pravu mustru (template) za kalendar. Sada je kasno...
> >
> > U svakom slucaju, poslusaj Graorija, pa koristi skriptu za pravljenje
> > kalendara. Kao sto je to i obicaj u nas, niko nije nasao za shodno da
> > napravi prevod kalendara na srpski, tako da ces to morati rucno da
> > odradis (iako je to par minuta posla, sve u svemu).
> >
> > Ako ti zatreba nesto, posalji poruku na ovu listu.
> > Ne bi bilo lose da pokazemo ljudima da je i srpski dovoljno
> > internacionalan da bi "video" par postova godisnje na ovoj listi. ;)
> >
> > Pozdrav,
> > Vlada
>
>
> Hmmm, nije u pitanju "internacionalnost" jezika nego ho?e li iko razumjeti
> ?ta
> pitate (na stranu to ?to nije ba? pristojno na javnoj listi koristiti jezik
> koji
> drugi ne razumiju). Vidite da, npr., i Nijemci i Francuzi postavljaju
> pitanja i
> komentare na engleskom i to nije bez razloga.
>
> Hmmm, it is not about "internationality" of a language but if anyone would
> understand your question (and it is not very polite to use, on a public
> mailing
> list, a language which others do not understand). You can see that, e.g.,
> German
> and French people here ask questions and comment on posts using English
> language
> and that is not for no reason.
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