[scribus] List of words / references possible?

Craig Bradney cbradney at scribus.info
Tue Nov 16 19:00:57 CET 2010

On 11/16/10 4:13 PM, John Culleton wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 November 2010 07:53:11 Alberto wrote:
>> Submitted on 11/16/2010
>> Submitted by anonymous user: []
>> Submitted values are:
>>    Name: Alberto
>>    Email Address: albertog at arrakis.es
>>    Subject: List of words / references possible?
>>    Message:
>> Hello,
>> I would like to create an automated list of "important" words used
>> in my book (i.e. pages where the word "server" appears). Is it
>> possible to use a process similar to the DOC creation, by assigning
>> a new parameter (= not TOC)? I created a "REFs" attribute instead
>> of TOC, of type String, but there is no way to create the list
>> sorted in alphabetical order - and, by the way, attributes are
>> assigned to text frames and not to single words (this is not a big
>> deal, though)...
>> Maybe I'm doing completely wrong, and there is a way to assign
>> attributes to single words?
>> regards,
>> Albertog
>>    About your Scribus program:
>>      Version: older_stable
>>      Prebuilt/Compiled: Prebuilt
>>      Build Date: 2. May 2007
>>    Your operating system and CPU:
>>      Type: Windows
>>      Version: WinXP
>>      CPU type: 32bit (Intel/AMD - i386)
>> The results of this submission may be viewed at:
>> http://www.scribus.net/node/158/submission/595
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> What you are asking for is a concordance. What a real book needs is an 
> index. But for a concordance I would:
> 1. Export a pdf.
> 2. Save the pdf as a text file named e.g., filename.txt from Acrobat 
> Reader.
> 3.In Gvim I would change all carriage returns to \vfil\eject strings. 
> (This is a single mass change).
> 4. Establish the starting page number with \pageno=1 at the 
> appropriate spot.
> 5. Add \input eplain at top of file.
> 6. Using mass change again, change all occurrences of the first word of 
> interest to \idx{theword}
> 7. edit that command to contain the next word of interest and run it 
> again.. 
> 8. Add \readindex{i} and \bye at end of file.
> 9. Run in sequence pdftex filename.txt; makeindex filename.idx; pdftex 
> filename.txt
> 10. Read the index at the end of the filename.pdf file. 
> This gets you not a true index but a concordance. A true index has in 
> item/subitem/subsubitem structure, has concepts as well as single 
> words, inverts proper names and so on Scribus lacks an indexing 
> capability. It is not a full featured book creation program, not yet 
> anyhow. So you have to work around its limitations using other 
> software.
> If you prefer a gui approach then my tcl program tyro.tcl is a 
> graphics front end to the indexing process. It is easier to understand 
> and use for a Windows user but more tedious since you must go through 
> the document page by page and extract the items of interest from that 
> page, using highlight and paste. Here is that program and its 
> documentation:
> http://wexfordpress.com/tex/tyro.pdf
> http://wexfordpress.com/tex/tyro.tcl
> You will also need to install the makeindex.exe program from TeX and 
> the Tcl/tk set of programs. Read the tyro.pdf file for more details. 
> Again using the tools that I have and know how to use I could write a 
> little COBOL program with the key words in one file and the txt file 
> from step 2 above in  another. COBOL is a tool I have used off and on 
> since 1968. Indeed it would be possible to write a program that would 
> use a Scribus source file as input. 
> Using Linux tools only I can conceive a script of utility programs 
> that could deliver a list of all the words used in a file, in alpha 
> order. That could be edited by hand and used as a word list for 
> importation into an automated process. 
> I use Linux. Gvim installs easily on Windows but there is a learning 
> curve. TeX installs easily on Windows but there is a learning curve. 
> Writing a Scribus program module to prepare a concordance, or better 
> to prepare a proper index, is more than I would care to attempt at 
> this point in my life. I am not a Python programmer. But the Scribus 
> scripter could be used to perform steps 1 and 2 above.
I have started working on indexing... started prototyping some changes..
no ETA.


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