[scribus] 1.5.0svn on holiday

[Gregory Pittman]

On 10/02/2013 07:29 AM, ZASKE Martin wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> normally, I am "just" a user and trainer, using Scribus 1.4.3 on Win 7
> Pro and Scribus 1.4.2 on OpenSuse 12.3. We are also using Corel X4,
> because we started with Corel Draw many many years ago.
> 
> Now, on holiday, I thought I should have a look at the latest and
> hottest. This includes the option of buying Corel X6 (on promotion) and
> looking at Scribus 1.5.0
> 
> 
> I am doing fine with OpenSuse for the last nine years or so and my
> latest 12.3 is almost up to date. I did try to follow the instructions
> for getting what is needed and compiling myself.
> 	One problem is that I am a beginner and have never compiled before. I
> run into missing-cairo trouble and I believe it is now called cairo2 or
> something. Also my internet is extremely slow (here in Africa via cell
> phone), so even getting what I need (once I figure out what I need takes
> days).
> 	Also it seems my timing is not ideal with the changes from qt4 to qt5.
> Seems that even on this list, the experts are still figuring out, what
> the new instructions should be.
> 
> Well, then I figured I could "cheat" a little and I went to
> 
> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=KDE%3AUnstable%3APlayground&package=scribus-unstable
> 
> I believe this is a place where some people who know make fresh
> packages. Well I got myself the
> 
> scribus-1.5.0svn.18401-148.1.x86_64.rpm
> 
> 
> I discovered that this packet was compiled 8 weeks ago and that it is
> all based on qt4 rather than qt5, according to
> 
> https://build.opensuse.org/package/binary/KDE:Unstable:Playground/scribus-unstable?arch=x86_64&filename=scribus-1.5.0svn.18401-148.1.x86_64.rpm&repository=KDE_Release_410_openSUSE_12.3
> 
> 
> So maybe this means that the experts at KDE playground (no mocking, this
> is what they call it) are also challenged with the transition to qt5?
> 
> On this list it seems to me that several people have already managed to
> get all needed packages and to compile successfully. So there is hope
> that our own Scribus wiki will be updated to show what those pioneers
> have found out. Please write it up, if it works for you; I will then try
> to do it again. I am looking here:
> 
> http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Building_SVN_versions_with_CMake
> 
> 
> For today I just have one specific question: I did download 43 MB of
> this scribus-1.5.0svn.18401-148.1.x86_64.rpm for OpenSuse 12.3 64bit.
> And even if it is two months old, I still want to install it and see
> what the new Scribus is all about. But it seems to me that this version
> 1.5.0 wants to install in the same locations, as my working version
> 1.4.2.(?) That would be bad; maybe I am wrong. My YAST package manager
> only will give me all details AFTER installation...
> 
> I understand, if I compile myself, I can specify where I want the beast
> to install. Is there a syntax how I can tell my package manager or
> zypper that I want this ready made 1.5.0.rpm to install in some trial
> (sandbox) folder?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> I still got three weeks of holiday, so maybe Scribus will be my first
> own compile. Or do you think it too big or too ambitious for learning
> about compiling?
> 

My sense of what is happening is that the major distros of Linux are all
waiting until their next upgrade to finally incorporate qt5 fully. It's
really their fault, since they should have been seeing what's going on
with various projects incorporating qt5. They seem to have this mindset
that no one compiles software anymore, so everybody will just be happy
when qt5-based versions make their way to the regular repositories.

Greg