[scribus] add unstable scribus to fedora repository

Wed Dec 9 23:46:23 UTC 2015

On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 03:02:58 -0500
William Bader <williambader at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> > From: christoph-schaefer at gmx.de
> > To: scribus at lists.scribus.net
> > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 07:14:24 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [scribus] add unstable scribus
> > to fedora repository
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 08. Dezember 2015 um
> > > 16:43 Uhr Von: "Gregory Pittman"
> > > <gpittman at iglou.com> An: "Scribus User
> > > Mailing List" <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
> > > Betreff: Re: [scribus] add unstable scribus
> > > to fedora repository
> > >
> > > On 12/08/2015 10:11 AM,
> > > stefan-husmann at t-online.de wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >> -----Original-Nachricht-----
> > > >> Betreff: [scribus] add unstable scribus
> > > >> to fedora repository Datum:
> > > >> 2015-12-08T13:02:54+0100 Von: "Muhamad
> > > >> Moghadam" <msm1365 at gmail.com> An:
> > > >> "scribus at lists.scribus.net"
> > > >> <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
> > > > 
> > > >> below address is scribus repository for
> > > >> fedora :
> > > > 
> > > >> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/mrdocs/Fedora_23/
> > > > 
> > > >> but is only stable version in repo while
> > > >> stable version is in official fedora
> > > >> repo. we need to be unstable scribus
> > > >> version in repository.
> > > > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I might be wrong, but my guess would be
> > > > that the scribus maintainers and
> > > > developers have no influence on Fedora's
> > > > decisions what will be taken into a
> > > > repository and what not. So you might ask
> > > > them.
> > > > 
> > > > On Arch Linux only stable versions enter
> > > > official repositories. I think Fedora has
> > > > similar politics.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > It's actually worse than that. Because our
> > > online docs that come with Scribus have a
> > > license that Fedora folks don't like, they
> > > do not want to have it in their repository.
> > > Of course, they might put it in one of the
> > > rpmfusion repos, but they don't seem to
> > > want to do that either. Consequently, the
> > > "current" Scribus in Fedora is 1.4.4
> > 
> > I don't buy this rationale. The documentation
> > licence hasn't changed one bit between 1.4.4
> > and 1.4.6 (or 1.5.x, for that matter). There
> > has to be another reason for their decision.
> > 
> > Christoph
> 
> 
> RedHat Enterprise Linux 7 has Scribus 1.4.4
> with a patch that removes the documentation.
> The spec file is scribus-1.4.4-5.el7.spec which
> applies a patch called
> scribus-1.4.2-nonfree.patch RHEL 6 has Scribus
> 1.4.3 as scribus-1.4.3-2.el6.x86_64 with a
> similar patch, and when you click on Help ->
> Scribus Manual, instead of the manual, you get
> the text: "Sorry, the manual is not installed
> because it is not freely distributable and thus
> can't be included in Fedora! Please see:
> http://docs.scribus.net for updated
> documentation http://www.scribus.net for
> downloads" Fedora 23 has Scribus 1.4.5. (I
> haven't installed it because I am using Scribus
> 1.5 built from source, but I suppose that it
> has the same patch.) The Scribus web site still
> lists 1.4.5 as the stable branch
> http://www.scribus.net/downloads/stable-branch/
> I suspect that RedHat and other distributions
> are going to prefer 1.4 as long as the Scribus
> web site says that 1.4 is the stable release
> and that 1.5 is still unstable.  I don't think
> that you can fault distribution maintainers
> from avoiding unstable releases. Fedora 23
> (including rpmfusion) provides nearly 50,000
> packages. They are not going to inflict
> unnecessary punishment on themselves by
> including large numbers of unstable releases.
> Is any 1.5 release going to be marked as
> stable, or will the first post-1.4 stable
> release be 1.6? Regards, William Bader,
> Director of Research and Development at SCS,
> http://www.newspapersystems.com
> 
> 
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The version 1.5.0 is effectively a released
version. It is available for download without
visiting the svn file. I think the Scribus team
would be doing users a service if they simply
marked 1.5.0 as "stable" which it is, or at
least as stable as the "stable" 1.4.3 version.

This would be a break from tradition I know. But
it would help those who insist in downloading
Scribus from their OS depository. 

I run 1.5.0 and 1.5.1 with no current problems
from either. 

On another tack, why is some of the
documentation of Scribus not under a GPL license?

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