[scribus] Any advice on font and layout.

wena-parry at talktalk.net wena-parry at talktalk.net
Tue Jan 26 18:13:42 UTC 2016


 Stefano has now hosted my “Bilingual hymn book”



.sla (2.3 MB) http://docs.binarioetico.org/index.php/s/OVLshehYNrolTfz

.pdf (2.0 MB) http://docs.binarioetico.org/index.php/s/YDMnQ5gCEZq6pRx



There is a
password for the above files, it’s “but?no!” without the quots.



It is a
bilingual hymn book. 

I produced
2 layouts in A5 for the same Scribus [1.4.5] both in the same file. The odd page number is the Welsh hymn
while the even page number on the right side of the book when saved and opened
in Adobe two page. 


I strongly
feel that although it looks O.K. in Scribus, I feel that the text, lyrics are
to small. 


May be a
different font might give a better text. Or a condensed font. I have experimented with it several
times without the results that I would like.

 Any advice?

 The titil
page will be O.K.



The “B”
page is a Welsh only for the proof readers. So that is no problem!



Wena

South
 Wales. U.K.



st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) }



 /* Style Definitions */
 table.MsoNormalTable
	{mso-style-name:"Table Normal";
	mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;
	mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;
	mso-style-noshow:yes;
	mso-style-parent:"";
	mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;
	mso-para-margin:0cm;
	mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
	font-size:10.0pt;
	font-family:"Times New Roman";}





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Dear Scribus community,

I am a beginner user of Scribus. I used to work with InDesign and would
like to make a change.
I have one specific need : importing multiple (200-400) picture files
(.jpeg, .png, .tif, etc.) automatically into one document.
On InDesign, I use a very simple xml file (with <article> nodes containing
both <text> and <picture> sub-nodes) and a script which imports it and
places the frames where I need them.
I have looked at the xml importing add-ins offered with scribus and can't
find an existing tool for this.

Now my enquiries :
* Did I overlook something, is it already possible?
* If I didn't, I would be interested in working on a solution, especially
if this is sth others would find useful : so, is it?
* As a new user with very little experiment in development (one has to
start somewhere...), I would need advice and help as to where to look, what
to expect, etc. Apart from this list, is there any other place to ask? (And
is it ok to ask here?)

Thanks in advance for any help.
Perrine Lenfantin

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France, 31300 Toulouse
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On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Perrine Lenfantin <
perrine.lenfantin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Scribus community,
>
> I am a beginner user of Scribus. I used to work with InDesign and would
> like to make a change.
> I have one specific need : importing multiple (200-400) picture files
> (.jpeg, .png, .tif, etc.) automatically into one document.
> On InDesign, I use a very simple xml file (with <article> nodes containing
> both <text> and <picture> sub-nodes) and a script which imports it and
> places the frames where I need them.
> I have looked at the xml importing add-ins offered with scribus and can't
> find an existing tool for this.
>
> Now my enquiries :
> * Did I overlook something, is it already possible?
> * If I didn't, I would be interested in working on a solution, especially
> if this is sth others would find useful : so, is it?
> * As a new user with very little experiment in development (one has to
> start somewhere...), I would need advice and help as to where to look, what
> to expect, etc. Apart from this list, is there any other place to ask? (And
> is it ok to ask here?)
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Perrine Lenfantin
>
> --
> France, 31300 Toulouse
> http://dilio.fr/


Hi Perrine,
This would be highly welcomed!

I'll get the ball rolling by posting relevant open tickets for this issue:

[PATCH] Improve Import management
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=11626

Multiple file selection in file selectors and the Picture Browser
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12015

Proposal for a unique import content command
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=10908

Cheers,
Kunda

PS
BTW, welcome to the list! :)
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 17:49:59 +0100
From: ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch>
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hey

> I am a beginner user of Scribus. I used to work with InDesign and
> would like to make a change.
> I have one specific need : importing multiple (200-400) picture files
> (.jpeg, .png, .tif, etc.) automatically into one document.
> On InDesign, I use a very simple xml file (with <article> nodes
> containing both <text> and <picture> sub-nodes) and a script which
> imports it and places the frames where I need them.
> I have looked at the xml importing add-ins offered with scribus and
> can't find an existing tool for this.

afaict, there is no ready made tool for this, no.

but you can write a python script that does what you want.

you can match existing frames and fill them with images or create new
pages and frames and put the images into them.

in the "F1" help there is a section "for developers" with more
information on scripting scribus.

the most important part being the one on the "Scribus API"...

i would need more information on the exact task you want to achieve, to
tell if it's more or less easy to do...

but we can for sure help you achieve your goal

> 
> Now my enquiries :
> * Did I overlook something, is it already possible?
> * If I didn't, I would be interested in working on a solution,
> especially if this is sth others would find useful : so, is it?

it is! and there might already be sample scripts in the wiki:

http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Category:Scripts

> * As a new user with very little experiment in development (one has to
> start somewhere...), I would need advice and help as to where to
> look, what to expect, etc. Apart from this list, is there any other
> place to ask? (And is it ok to ask here?)

this is probably the best place for asking...

but we also have forums (http://forums.scribus.net), an irc channel on
freenode (http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Special:WebChat), a french
speaking forum on linuxgraphic.org and more or less official channels a
bit everywhere (facebook, twitter, g+, stackoverflow, ...) if you
prefer :-)

have a nice weekend
a.l.e



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Thank you Stefano, you haven't give me your e-mail address.
I'm sending most of it so you can see the whole of the problems. To see it as 2 A5 side by side you will need to instruct 
the Adolby to show 2 page.

I would be happy to send you the  Scribus file if you think it would be better.

Thanks again.

Wena 



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Greg, I did make the layout in A5,
I have played about with it a long time.

Now my cloud don't seem to work, I would have liked to send a sample. Is there any other way I can do that?
And if so, what format. PDF is the one i had attempted to send 3 pages but that was to big for the list. I then attempted a png format at 200dpi. Still too big.  

Is there any member of this list that would except the the PDF to make it available to others???? 

Wena D. Parry



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Thank you one and all, I will put a sample in my cloud box

Wena


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On 01/21/2016 07:30 AM, wena-parry at talktalk.net wrote:
> Thank you one and all, I will put a sample in my cloud box
> 

I would concur with a.l.e's suggestion that you should generate your
book in A5 format rather than converting.

Separate from the actual book creation, you should be able to make some
sample pages with typical text, then play around with fonts and font
sizes, printing them out as you decide. Remember you can make fractional
font sizes, like 8.6 or 9.3 points. You may also find that you need a
slightly larger size of one language or the other, depending on
legibility. Playing a bit with linespacing may be needed.

Greg




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Il 22/01/2016 19:53, wena-parry at talktalk.net ha scritto:
> Is there any member of this list that would except the the PDF to make it available to others????
>

hi Wena,
send it at my email address your file and i will put it online for others

have a nice day

Stefano
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Your lucky color has faded





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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 08:59:22 +0100
From: "Christoph Sch?fer" <christoph-schaefer at gmx.de>
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Hi Translators,


We plan to release 1.5.1 during the next week or a few days later. Two of the major new features in 1.5.1 are support for the CIE L*a*b* colour model and an import filter for Swatchbooker's SBZ format. I've also added the CIE LAB and CIE HLC palettes that were already included in the 1.4.6 release, only this time as SBZ files with L*a*b* values. I'm planning to convert all colour palettes to SBZ and, if possible, to L*a*b* (at least where it makes sense).

One of the major advantages of SBZ is that you can store additional information like description, as well as copyright and licencing information in those files. Even better: This information can be translated! And as a cherry on top, it's also possible to include a pixel image of a colour reference or a logo inside!

The easiest way to translate SBZs is using Swatchbooker (http://www.selapa.net/swatchbooker/). Unfortunately, the software doesn't run on Windows, despite the availabality of a (non-working) Windows version, and on Mac OS X you have to install it via Homebrew (http://brewformulas.org/Swatchbooker). If you can't use Swatchbooker: SBZ files are nothing more than an XML file in a ZIP archive, so you can edit the content in a text editor, if you wish.

You can make yourself familiar with Swatchbooker using the two SBZ files shipped with Scribus 1.5.1. In 1.5.2 we plan to move most of our colour palettes to a server. You will then be able to download them via the new Resource Manager. I will, however, upload all SBZ versions of the palettes to the bugtracker prior to the 1.5.2 release, so you can use the BT for your translations.

And there's even more to come. It is planned to make the complete Open Colour Systems Collections (OCSC) available from our server. In case you don't know: OCSC (current version 1.0) comprises 367 mostly commercial colour systems in the L*a*b* colour model. Although we'll probably use version 2.0, which is due to be released prior to 1.5.2 and includes even more systems, translators can already have a look at v. 1.0 here: http://dtpstudio.de/downloads/OCSC_1_0.zip. Version 2.0 will also comprise ASE and plain text versions of the palettes, as well as plain text versions of the descriptions. By translating OCSC 2.0 you wouldn't only help Scribus, but also everyone else who wants to integrate them with their software. Translators will be credited in the OCSC README file. The palette files themselves are being published under a CC licence.

Please note that the translation will be easy but extremely boring. A typical description looks like this:

Company: maleco Farbwerk GmbH
Product: maleco Spirit innen
Product type: Interior paint
Colours: 1639

Contact:
maleco Farbwerk GmbH
Hauptniederlassung Hamburg
Sch?tzenstra?e 80
22761 Hamburg
http://maleco.de

As you can see: Most of it is copy'n'paste.



Happy testing and translating!

Christoph



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> 
> What is a proprietary color _model_? What counts for an open one, exactly?

Hi Alex,

This is a profound question, and I have to admit I struggled with the formulation of the text. Colour models cannot be proprietary, but colour systems can. The advantage of the CIE LAB and especially the CIE HLC fans is that they don't even pretend to be a colour system. Instead, they simply use the open and flexible CIE standard, which makes proprietary colour systems like Pantone superfluous.

HTH,

Christoph



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