[scribus] Bullets and numbering

[Ken Springer]

On 3/21/16 12:02 PM, Craig Bradney wrote:
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>> On 21 Mar 2016, at 14:18, Ken Springer <snowshed1 at q.com> wrote:
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>> On 3/21/16 3:16 AM, Craig Bradney wrote:
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>>>> On 21 Mar 2016, at 09:07, ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch> wrote:
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>>>> hey
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>>>>> On 21/03/16 00:59, Ken Springer wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/1/16 10:50 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
>>>>>> Scribus 1.4.6
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>>>>>> Can it do bullets and numbering?  Searching Help doesn't seem to come up
>>>>>> with anything.
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>>>>> After 2-3 hours of trying to figure this out, I'm throwing in the towel.   LOL  Going to give1.5.1 a try.
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>>>>> FWIW, I found the suggested video to be basically not worth my time.  YMMV
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>>>> fwiw: if you had a hard time figuring out how to get the manual bullets/numbering to work, and you are not keen to be patient in front of unfinished products, i would not recommend you to download a development version of scribus (until you're proficient with the stable one)
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>>>> in 1.5.1 bullets and numbering are feature that are still being tested and at my knowledge they have not been extensively been used in production.
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>>>> of course, i've been working with 1.5.x for years ... but there were not only tears of joy...
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>>> And bullets and numbering were externally developed and due to issues we almost removed them. We've got concrete plans for 1.5.2 and 1.5.3, at some point we will have to fix bullets and numbering properly.
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>> If I may make a suggestion...
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>> Fix the bullets and numbering before you add new features.  And anything else you know to be broken.
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>> One of the biggest irritants for me with FOSS software is new features are added before existing ones work correctly.  Kind of like adding a turbocharger to the engine of a car when you can't keep air in the tires.  LOL
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>> IMO, making a small program work right is better than a large program with problems.
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>> The aforementioned is why I no longer use or recommend Libre Office. Things I wanted to use were broken, but the developers would add something new.  I wasn't the only one expressing this view either.  :-)
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>> When asked about MS Office alternatives, I'll mention LO, but I also tell them why I gave up.
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> You’re free to give up on Scribus too. We’re free to code it how we like.

Depends on the definition of "give up".  :-)  If you mean "give up" 
because it's harder to do the current project in Scribus?  Guilty.  If 
you mean totally abandon it, not guilty.  Scribus worked good on the 
previous project I did with it.

> However, we have the same aims in mind that you describe, but it takes time with only a few hours a week available. We set our targets based on whats achievable to fix certain goals. Bullets and numbering is about last on the list.

Just philosophical discussion here for me....

Which takes priority, fixing a goal you "added" first, or adding a new 
goal first?


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