[scribus] Introducing: Scribus Templates

Sun May 20 06:54:43 UTC 2018

Thank you Martin. It means a lot to me.

Kind regards,
Norbert

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:46 PM ZASKE Martin <zm at revue-gugu.org> wrote:

> Dear Norbert,
>
> thank you for more feedback and for your transparency. Again, your
> initiative is very good and all your reasoning makes sense to me.
>
> Re your proposals for attribution: "What do you think?" I think there is
> a healthy portion of common sense and you are listing good concepts.
> Seems that many graphic designers are hungry and need exposure (judging
> from certain questions on http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/)
>
> So attribution is a fine thing, where there is space to place it. I
> guess that more than 80% of our output has space or even a full page to
> carry attributions and thank-you-notes. And what you propose for
> home-production also sounds good.
>
>
> When we broadcast our proverbs for example, by WhatsApp to a growing
> list of subscribers, we learnt that we can put our CC license into the
> jpeg-meta data as EXIF and IPTC. All our proverbs are decorated and
> layouted in Scribus. They probably never get printed for real and most
> of our illustrations for that series comes from Openclipart (so no need
> for attribution). Those proverbs do not need your templates, but just to
> show you that we like the concept of CC and apply it wherever the
> project and sources allow us.
>
>
> All the best for your project. Just write some helpful guidelines. Those
> who want to steal CC stuff will do it anyway and print it in the second
> basement somewhere in North Korea or wherever. But the good people, who
> just print some party-invitations will learn about the issues and can
> respect the providers more.
>
> And still there might be contributors who would even opt for "public
> domain", so just consider offering that option. Or run it as a test and
> see whether it is worth your trouble.
>
> good weekend,
>
> Martin
>
>
> On 18.05.2018 13:59, Norbert from Scribus Templates wrote:
> > Dear Martin,
> >
> > Thank you for your valuable feedback. Non-mainstream templates would add
> > some serious value to the repository.
> >
> > 1) Thank you for initiating the discussion on licensing. To answer your
> > question, I am mindful of the following:
> >
> > - allow designers to gain exposure
> > - allow Scribus to gain exposure
> > - some guarantee that the templates will not be sold elsewhere
> > - be the least cumbersome for end users
> >
> > I believe the CC BY-SA license can accomplish the first three and not
> being
> > overcomplicated about the attribution requirements lead to the last one.
> > Attribution could go anywhere on the final product (digital or print) and
> > should be somehow human readable, i.e. not in metadata.
> >
> > However, I do understand that in some situations this would be
> > impracticable, specially for home printing (occasional office or family
> > use) and freelancing (crediting may not be expected or appropriate for
> some
> > projects). Requirements could be waived in such situations, say on the
> > condition that:
> >
> > - users send a picture of their homeprints :) or
> > - users/freelancers contribute in return to the repo when they can
> >
> > What do you think? What do others feel about it? I like the idea of
> > reciprocal sharing and I’m already excited to work in this direction.
> >
> > 2) Thanks again. I’m being transparent. I believe the project has to be
> > financially viable to survive. I shifted away from the idea of having
> ads –
> > which is it seems how the websites you mentioned generate an income. I
> got
> > the ball rolling… We’re only at the beginning.
> >
> > 3) I didn’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings :) YES Scribus is hot but just
> > not easily accessible to everyone. Templates as you reckon can change
> that.
> > The slogan is really a call for action, something like “just do it”. And
> > using “more” here would mean there’s a deficit somewhere, wouldn’t it?!
> ;)
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Norbert
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:26 PM, ZASKE Martin <zm at revue-gugu.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Norbert,
> >>
> >> thank you for your initiative and for sharing here. I had a look at your
> >> site and first impression is nice.
> >>
> >> Our project will probably never use any template, as our stuff and our
> >> readers are in a very-not-mainstream niche. Still templates can be one
> >> helpful aspect for learning about all the powers of Scribus.
> >>
> >> If I ever have time, I will contribute a template plus sample database
> >> to show the awesome Scribus Generator in action.
> >>
> >> Now from me one question, one hint and one mild correction:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How do you want the attribution for your template CC licence? I do not
> >> see that it would make our posters any prettier, if we had to print an
> >> attribution "just for the template". Would you accept an attribution and
> >> licence info in the meta-data of any exported PDF-document? And what
> >> about printed documents? Minimum font-size? ... In books and magazines
> >> we are having a dedicated page for "legal matters", but what about
> >> one-page stuff or packaging or WhatsApp serial-proverbs... Have a look
> >> at all the different things created by Scribus on the "success stories"
> >> web-pages and write some practical ideas how the attribution could be
> >> correct but not deface the products.
> >>         Maybe you could offer your contributors the option to tick
> "public
> >> domain" and thereby free the end-user from licence and attribution
> >> hassle? I love that at Openclipart.org and at Pixabay.com (both as a
> >> user and as a humble contributor).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have been here for several years and I have never seen or heard the
> >> core Scribus developers ask for any money. As you are pointing out
> >> rightly, there are always costs... So they must have some sweet secret,
> >> maybe an oil-well or whatever. Just to give you that context and let you
> >> decide how much you want to shout.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lastly, I propose your slogan should be "Let's make Scribus more sexy!"
> >> because - as far as any computer tool can be - Scribus is rather hot
> >> already!!
> >>
> >>
> >> All the best for your project; I love all the good stuff and the sharing
> >> coming to this list.
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16.05.2018 08:59, Norbert from Scribus Templates wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> My name is Norbert and I'm from France. If you're anything like me, the
> >>> first thing you did when trying out Scribus for the first time was to
> >> look
> >>> for templates. And. Well... You didn't find any. That is, not much more
> >>> than those bundled with the software.
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to change that.
> >>>
> >>> I started releasing free user friendly templates in April 2018 on
> >>> scribus-templates.net - yes, I creatively called the project Scribus
> >>> Templates. And I'm planning to release more of them every week. Read
> all
> >>> about my crazy idea on the About page (
> >> scribus-templates.net/p/about.html).
> >>>
> >>> If you're thrilled about this like I am, there are a number of ways in
> >>> which you could be part of it too. If you are an active Scribus user in
> >>> particular, you already have some files that you could convert into
> >>> templates and submit - that is, if you're happy to release them under
> CC
> >>> BY-SA 4.0 license.
> >>>
> >>> Scribus Templates is and always will be about free access to knowledge
> >> and
> >>> sharing. This project is not commercially driven. However, it has to be
> >>> self-sustainable and this can be achieved with your help. If you
> believe
> >>> these values are worth defending, consider making a tip (
> >>> tipeee.com/scribus-templates) and passing on this email.
> >>>
> >>> Subscribe to get new templates every week. Email me if you'd like to
> >>> contribute in any way.
> >>>
> >>> Spread the word, share the love. Let's make Scribus sexy!
> >>>
> >>> Norbert
> >>> info at scribus-templates.net
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