[scribus] How to print in different sizes

[Mike Wright]

Hi,

I 'grew up' with very basic layout programs (machine code) and later
learnt Corel, gimp, Lay Text, adobe, scribus etc. etc. so I feel
justified in adding my 2 cts!

Text: this is not so difficult. One just changes the paragraph / text
style.

    Really! - that's why they these features are there. Naturally the
kerning, letter spacing and paragraph format will be changed due to very
small changes in the 'rendering' of true type fonts - but they are "True
Type" - they are (supposed to be) vector based fonts (the first fonts
were simple bitmaps and scaling was a nightmare or impossible -
consequently modern fonts already incorporate the ability to be scaled).
The interface you/I/we know is Scribus, so just do it in Scribus.

Pictures: slightly more problematic as they are actually bitmaps, so
always start with the biggest format (highest resolution) and then scale
down.

Vector graphics: these evolved for exactly the same reasons as true type
fonts - vectors are scaleable, so just resize them.

- so for these three you need to do a /little /work.

Much more serious. I think, is what a.l.e mentions: "the designer will
try to convince her that you don't create the same design on A4 or A0"
and that is the real problem. In other words: one needs to do the layout
again for each format and " please recognize my art / skills".

Programming is a kind of art, so is layout/design. If we want the
programming, in this case Scribus, to be the layouter / designer and
become as good as or better at it than we are, then we are out of the
equation.

And, anyway, you don't get intelligent programs for nothing ;-) Software
for nothing AND your chicks for free??? Rubber biscuits???

BTW: IMHO 'even' adobe's multiformat outputs were never useful (except
maybe Dreamweaver - perhaps they became usable/better after CS6)

mike

On 18/11/2019 18:25, ale rimoldi wrote:
> hi
>
>> a.l.e had given the most specific idea on how to try within Scribus:
>>
>> I had to read between the lines and had to learn that he meant to
>> "select all (over all layers)" and to "resize" by a bold-mouse move:
>>
>> I tried, and basically my document became a mess. A few elements got
>> bigger and moved to their places. But anything text was no joy. And
>> snapping to my (print-shop prescribed) bleed-limits did either not
>> work or my mouse-skills for A0 page-size are just not snappy enough.
>> I think my mouse tried snapping to the page-edges rather to the
>> bleed-edges but since my screen is somewhat smaller than A0, I am not
>> sure what happened.
> as somebody else wrote: it was a likely outcome.
>
> but, theoretically, this is the scribus way of doing what you wanted to
> do.
> (and in some cases it works ok... after you have adjusted the text
> frame heights)
>
>> I got more mails with ideas or even questions ("have you tried...")
>> and I conclude that Scribus has no inbuilt tools to publish several
>> sized-versions from one master document. Are we really the only users
>> needing that?
> no, everybody wants that!
>
> but in most cases:
>
> - you can just tell the print shop to print it at the desired size or
> - you can scale a vector version of your original pdf
> - you can use a tool that is dedicated to the editing of pdfs (and have
>   the money for it) or
> - you know somebody who understands
>   https://lornajane.net/posts/2015/scaling-and-sizing-with-pdfjam 
> - and most of the time the manager will want to simply scale up or down
>   the pdf, while the designer will try to convince her that you don't
>   create the same design on A4 or A0.
>
> when you don't have the money, don't have the hacker skills, don't have
> the time, don't trust your printer, and don't want the designer to redo
> her work... you might be out of luck...
>
> ciao
> a.l.e
>
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