[scribus] 1.5.6svn - daily builds PPA

[Bert Driehuis]

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:43 AM John Jason Jordan <johnxj at gmx.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 23:52:02 +0100
> Bert Driehuis <driehuis at playbeing.org> dijo:
>
> >By adding a PPA, you automatically include that repository in your
> >regular Ubuntu updates. Updates to Scribus will be applied at the same
> >time that your regular Ubuntu updates are installed. You can see the
> >details in the popup that announces regular updates.
>
> Bert,
>
> Thanks for the response. I know that a PPA adds whatever packages it
> offers to the regular packages in the distro repositories. Except that,
> in my case I was previously using the Appimage version of 1.5.3, and
> Appimages don't use the repositories. Thus, after adding the PPA there
> was no popup announcing that an update was available.
>
> However, that was to be expected. After adding the PPA I did 'sudo apt
> update' to refresh the available packages, then looked in Synaptic
> package manager to see what was available. I selected 1.5.6-trunk
> which, according to the page which describes the PPA, I knew would be
> the daily builds.

If you use Synaptic to select a specific version, you may end up
marking it as held in APT. I always avoid selecting a version in
Synaptic. In the case of Scribus, you can safely install scribus-trunk
and scribus-ng alongside the scribus package without locking down a
version. I have Scribus, Scribus-NG and Scribus DailyBuild in my
application menu. Of course, this makes opening a document from the
Files window a toss-up (fortunately, you can select which package
should handle .sla files in the Open With settings).

> The daily builds do not change the packages that are available, so if
> there is a new build, it does not appear in the updates, and there will
> never be a popup.

That is not correct. Updated packages will result in a new version for
the underlying the dpkg package. Look for a version number like
1.5.6svn~r23206~20190923~ppa74~ubuntu18.04.1 to identify a daily
build. You may need the command line for that (see below).

>On launchpad.net-scribus I see that there have been a
> couple of new builds since I installed 1.5.6-trunk. When running
> Scribus 1.5.6svn there is an option to look for updates, which I have
> not yet used.

I do not know what that option does on Linux. I do not believe this
option jives well with a PPA repository mainained package, so it
should probably be greyed out on PPA or comparable repo builds.

> But Scribus here has been shut down and re-launched
> several times, so it's possible that these new builds have been added
> and I am now alrready using a later build. I'm just trying to figure out
> how I can tell which build I am using. After all, if I encounter a bug
> and wish to report it I'd certainly need to specify which build I was
> using when I ran into it.

My Scribus daily build has an About->Scribus menu, which shows a
"Build ID: C--T-F-C1.15.10-64bit". But if you report issues about
scribus-trunk from the PPA, you may wish to include the output from
  dpkg -l scribus-trunk|cat
to make sure.

Unfortunately, the Ubuntu world has gotten quite complicated with
flatpacks, snaps and appimages, which do not follow (and usually
conflict with) APT guidelines. I try to stick with APT-managed
packages as much as I can.


With kind regards,

Bert Driehuis