[scribus] Flush Right - WordPerfect Style

Thu Dec 17 20:40:34 CET 2009

Ah, I see. That WP feature is unique. Thanks for pointing that out.

However, if I understand the desired end result, I believe the paragraph 
style approach accomplishes the intent. No tabs are used. In a 
right-aligned paragraph style, tabs are not needed to align the text on 
the right. If the 400 point frame is changed in either direction, the 
right-align adjusts automatically along with frame width changes. I've 
used this same approach in OOo Writer and M$ Word.  But maybe I'm still 
missing the issue.

Clint Alderman
calderman at suddenlink.net

On 12/17/2009 1:24 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:52:33 -0600
> Clint Alderman<calderman at suddenlink.net>  dijo:
>
> No, the feature Jonathan is looking for is different. In WordPerfect
> you can type at the left edge of the frame, then enter a "flush right"
> command and the rest of the text on the line will be right justified at
> the right edge of the frame.
>
> In Scribus (and everything else I have ever used) you accomplish this
> by setting a right-aligned tab at the position of the right edge of the
> frame. E.g., if your frame is, say, 400 points wide, then your right tab
> will be at 400 points. When you type text it starts at the left edge of
> the frame, but when you enter a tab the remaining text is right aligned
> at the right edge of the frame (400 points).
>
> While it appears that this accomplishes the same thing, it is not the
> same. Suppose you have set this up (as a style if you wish) for our
> hypothetical 400-point wide frame. But then you decide you want your
> frame 420 points wide. After changing the width of the frame your
> right-aligned text will still be at 400 points, 20 points inset from
> the right edge of your frame. Now you have to go into the tab settings
> and reformat the position of your tab. The WordPerfect feature does not
> require this because it automatically adjusts the right position to the
> right edge of the frame as soon as you change the width of the frame
> (or actually, page margins, because WordPerfect is a word processor).
>
> I was thinking that if there was a script that would get the width of
> the frame and automatically adjust the right tab position to match it,
> at least the adjustment could be automated to a couple mouse clicks.
>
>    
>> Is this not handled through paragraph styles?
>> For example:
>> Set up "Body Text" which would be typical left-aligned text.
>> Then set up "Body Text - Right" as a sub-style except it is
>> right-aligned. So it's just a matter of applying the style to the
>> desired section of text. No mater width changing of text box, it all
>> adjusts automatically without tabs.
>>
>> Same concept works in any word processor.
>>
>> I like to tell people:
>> /"Paragraph style are like friends.
>> Take time to get to know them and they can be a big help to you as
>> long as you treat them right."/
>>
>> Clint Alderman
>> Tel 432.853.1322 *|* calderman at suddenlink.net
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/2009 12:33 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>>      
>>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:32:55 -0500
>>> Jonathan Kreider<jonathan.kreider at gmail.com>   dijo:
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> I've been playing around in Scribus 1.3.5.1.  I'm trying to adjust
>>>> to page layout software and concepts from my experience with word
>>>> processors.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to know how to align a portion of a single line of text
>>>> to the left margin and a portion of the same line of text to the
>>>> right margin, like WordPerfect's "flush right" feature.
>>>>
>>>> I know about right tab stops, but they lose my design intent if and
>>>> when I need to adjust the width of the text frame.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to attach a right tab to the right edge of the text
>>>> frame in 1.3.5.1 (or any version of Scribus)?
>>>>
>>>> Is there another way to capture the design intent of a portion of a
>>>> line of text left justified and another portion of the same line
>>>> right justified?
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> It has been a long time, but I remember that feature from
>>> WordPerfect. It was handy, but Scribus does not have the same
>>> feature. In fact, I don't think any program other than WordPerfect
>>> ever had that feature.
>>>
>>> In Scribus the only option is to set a right tab at the right edge of
>>> the frame. If you adjust the width of the frame you will have to
>>> adjust the tab position.
>>>
>>> It should be possible to write a script to automate adjusting the
>>> right tab position to the width of the frame. I am not a programmer,
>>> so I couldn't help. But maybe someone else can. It would be a handy
>>> script to have.
>>>
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