[scribus] Flush Right - WordPerfect Style

John Jason Jordan johnxj at comcast.net
Thu Dec 17 23:18:49 CET 2009 

What the original poster wants is a line like this:

|Some text                                             Some text|

In WordPerfect there is a command that you can enter after typing the
text on the left that makes further text right-aligned on the same
line. This command is part of WordPerfect and is not part of a style.
You can enter the command on any line regardless of the paragraph or
character styles used.

You can certainly right-align a paragraph in Scribus or any other
program, but then the text on the left will move to the right. The only
way to get both left-aligned and right-aligned text on the same line is
to set a right-aligned tab at the position of the right edge of the
frame. 


On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:40:34 -0600
Clint Alderman <calderman at suddenlink.net> dijo:

>Ah, I see. That WP feature is unique. Thanks for pointing that out.
>
>However, if I understand the desired end result, I believe the
>paragraph style approach accomplishes the intent. No tabs are used. In
>a right-aligned paragraph style, tabs are not needed to align the text
>on the right. If the 400 point frame is changed in either direction,
>the right-align adjusts automatically along with frame width changes.
>I've used this same approach in OOo Writer and M$ Word.  But maybe I'm
>still missing the issue.
>
>Clint Alderman
>calderman at suddenlink.net
>
>
>On 12/17/2009 1:24 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:52:33 -0600
>> Clint Alderman<calderman at suddenlink.net>  dijo:
>>
>> No, the feature Jonathan is looking for is different. In WordPerfect
>> you can type at the left edge of the frame, then enter a "flush
>> right" command and the rest of the text on the line will be right
>> justified at the right edge of the frame.
>>
>> In Scribus (and everything else I have ever used) you accomplish this
>> by setting a right-aligned tab at the position of the right edge of
>> the frame. E.g., if your frame is, say, 400 points wide, then your
>> right tab will be at 400 points. When you type text it starts at the
>> left edge of the frame, but when you enter a tab the remaining text
>> is right aligned at the right edge of the frame (400 points).
>>
>> While it appears that this accomplishes the same thing, it is not the
>> same. Suppose you have set this up (as a style if you wish) for our
>> hypothetical 400-point wide frame. But then you decide you want your
>> frame 420 points wide. After changing the width of the frame your
>> right-aligned text will still be at 400 points, 20 points inset from
>> the right edge of your frame. Now you have to go into the tab
>> settings and reformat the position of your tab. The WordPerfect
>> feature does not require this because it automatically adjusts the
>> right position to the right edge of the frame as soon as you change
>> the width of the frame (or actually, page margins, because
>> WordPerfect is a word processor).
>>
>> I was thinking that if there was a script that would get the width of
>> the frame and automatically adjust the right tab position to match
>> it, at least the adjustment could be automated to a couple mouse
>> clicks.
>>
>>    
>>> Is this not handled through paragraph styles?
>>> For example:
>>> Set up "Body Text" which would be typical left-aligned text.
>>> Then set up "Body Text - Right" as a sub-style except it is
>>> right-aligned. So it's just a matter of applying the style to the
>>> desired section of text. No mater width changing of text box, it all
>>> adjusts automatically without tabs.
>>>
>>> Same concept works in any word processor.
>>>
>>> I like to tell people:
>>> /"Paragraph style are like friends.
>>> Take time to get to know them and they can be a big help to you as
>>> long as you treat them right."/
>>>
>>> Clint Alderman
>>> Tel 432.853.1322 *|* calderman at suddenlink.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2009 12:33 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>>>      
>>>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:32:55 -0500
>>>> Jonathan Kreider<jonathan.kreider at gmail.com>   dijo:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>> I've been playing around in Scribus 1.3.5.1.  I'm trying to adjust
>>>>> to page layout software and concepts from my experience with word
>>>>> processors.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know how to align a portion of a single line of
>>>>> text to the left margin and a portion of the same line of text to
>>>>> the right margin, like WordPerfect's "flush right" feature.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know about right tab stops, but they lose my design intent if
>>>>> and when I need to adjust the width of the text frame.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to attach a right tab to the right edge of the text
>>>>> frame in 1.3.5.1 (or any version of Scribus)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there another way to capture the design intent of a portion of
>>>>> a line of text left justified and another portion of the same line
>>>>> right justified?
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>> It has been a long time, but I remember that feature from
>>>> WordPerfect. It was handy, but Scribus does not have the same
>>>> feature. In fact, I don't think any program other than WordPerfect
>>>> ever had that feature.
>>>>
>>>> In Scribus the only option is to set a right tab at the right edge
>>>> of the frame. If you adjust the width of the frame you will have to
>>>> adjust the tab position.
>>>>
>>>> It should be possible to write a script to automate adjusting the
>>>> right tab position to the width of the frame. I am not a
>>>> programmer, so I couldn't help. But maybe someone else can. It
>>>> would be a handy script to have.
>>>>
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