[scribus] Creating multi- page magazine

wena-parry at talktalk.net wena-parry at talktalk.net
Thu Oct 11 16:47:12 UTC 2012


Solved the problem of importing from Open Office.

Copy and past was the only thing I could do to get text from the Open 
Office.

Ciao a.l.e that was not my preference.

It had mentioned on this forum not to import a “Text Only” I couldn’t 
find that and asked for directions, but had none.

It was clear that there was some thing in my workflow that wasn’t 
correct so I went to investigate today.

1	In Scribus 1.4.1 having inserted a text frame and right clicked on 
the mouse it will automatically offer a “Doc File” import system.
2	The above needs to be changed a little. First go to the dropdown menu 
to select “Open Office, odt files. It will show “OpenDocument text 
Documents” as shown in my screen shot.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53724979/Screenshot%20correct.PNG

That will import Bold, Italics, and Underline. I am now going it 
investigate what other stiles it can import.

A work of caution, don’t set the potion of “OpenOffice.org Writer 
Documents as this will only import without stiles.

Wena



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   1. Re:  Question about page properties (ale rimoldi)
   2. Re:  Question about page properties (Gregory Pittman)
   3.  Removing the root directory in the git repositories (ale rimoldi)
   4. Re:  Question about page properties (ale rimoldi)
   5. Re:  Question about page properties (Mary Moore)
   6. Re:  Question about page properties (Gregory Pittman)
   7. Re:  Question about page properties (Mary Moore)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:19:07 +0200
From: ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch>
To: scribus at lists.scribus.net
Subject: Re: [scribus] Question about page properties
Message-ID: <20121011141907.4193a5d9 at eiseiseis>
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hi

an alternative approach would be to add a dialog when applying the
master page notices that the left or right margins change.


  +---------------------------------------+
  | Apply Master Page                     |
  |---------------------------------------|
  |                                       |
  | Move all items on the page            |
  |                                       |
  | [o] No                                |
  |                                       |
  | [ ] According to left margin          |
  |                                       |
  | [ ] According to right margin         |
  |                                       |
  |                            +-------+  |
  |                            |  Ok   |  |
  |                            +-------+  |
  |                                       |
  +---------------------------------------+


I think that this would be almost trivial to implement...

ciao
a.l.e



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:12:31 -0400
From: Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Subject: Re: [scribus] Question about page properties
Message-ID: <5076C5BF.1000808 at iglou.com>
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On 10/11/2012 03:46 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:
> Hi All
>
> A question to do with page properties ...
>
> I have a 50 page Journal that I produce every month. I use the 
"Rolling
> Template" style of doing this, ie I take the last issue, delete all 
the
> photos and text, re-date it and re-number it (on the Master pages) and
> start to populate it with the new material. This way I retain any
> changes I have made to the layout as I go along.
>
> Most months, as sections change in size, I have to add and delete 
pages.
> My question is - how can I, (or is it possible to make Scribus),
> re-order the Left and Right layout of the pages correctly when you do
> this? If I add a page it sets the new page correctly _but_ all
> subsequent pages are now incorrect. Likewise if I delete a page all
> subsequent pages are incorrect and one needs to go through the whole
> rest of the document correcting this and, worse still, re-aligning 
text
> frames, graphics etc.
>
> So to paraphrase If I have a 5 page document it would be -
> Right, Left, Right, Left, Right.
> If I now _ADD_ a new page in the second position I get -
> Right, Left, Left, Right, Left, Right.
> Instead of -
> Right, Left, Right, Left, Right, Left.
>
> I seem to think that one time I was experimenting with a different
> layout and got this to work correctly but I could be wrong!! If I have
> done something wrong in my current layout or Materpages I have no idea
> what it is and would be pleased to know.

This sounds like a job for a script. Aside from assigning a different
Master Page, AFAIK you should just be shifting the page's contents left
or right.

A script would first make a list of all objects on the page, then one by
one shift the X-Pos left or right according to user choice by a
specified amount.

If there is some other layout issue, there is the "Unflip" script on the
wiki, which probably still works:

http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Un-Flip_all_Selected_Items

since sometimes the layout needs to be different depending on whether
the page is Right or Left.

Greg

PS: I'll try playing around a bit later today. I think this should be a
very simple script to write.




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:24:15 +0200
From: ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Subject: [scribus] Removing the root directory in the git repositories
Message-ID: <20121011152415.23a2b080 at eiseiseis>
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Hi people,
Hi Malex,


In the past, I was a little bit bothered by the fact that git repository
had a "Scribus/" directory at its root, which then contained the Scribus
source.
I was wondering why this extra level was needed, but since the real
files were just a "cd" away, I never really cared.

I was wrong! I should have said at the beginning and it would have been
an easy fix.


Now, I care! I'm trying to document, how to start contributing
to Scribus by using Qt Creator and the issue i get is that the "Qt/git"
wizard can't find the Qt project file, because it's not in the root
directory!

Instead of bothering each single potential contributor with tedious
extra steps, when starting toying with the Scribus code, i think that
it's really time to get this fixed for real and remove that "useless"
Scribus/ directory.


I've been to the #git support channel and I asked the people in there
what they think about such a change.
The answer could be summarized in: from the git point of view, it's not
really a good idea, but if you have a small team it should not
bee too painful.
So, I'd like to suggest you that we do it before the number of people
using the git repository grows and it gets really painful!


Now some facts.

The command to run is:

$ git filter-branch --tag-name-filter cat --prune-empty \
--subdirectory-filter Scribus/ -f -- --all

and it has to be run at the root of the repository.

it run for about twenty minutes on my computer and the result looks
good.


A bit more visually, the result is the following. Currently, when you
clone the scribus.git repository you get the following content:

http://www.git.scribus-ece.info/?p=.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/ece14;hb=refs/heads/ece14

... after the change proposed it would look like this:

http://www.git.scribus-ece.info/?p=.git;a=tree;f=Scribus;h=bb3551bc28dcd5d9a5e999b441be42665be611a7;hb=refs/heads/ece14


If we decide to make the change, the guys on #git suggested the
following steps:

- fix a day and time when the change should happen.
- everybody pushes what he has to push
- somebody (A) checkouts all the remote branches
- (A) removes all the remote branches
- (A) fixes the directory structure on his local repository
- (A) pushes the changes to the server
- (A) recreates all the remote branch
- everybody clones the new repository and checkout the "new" branches

What is still missing: how to fix the repository tracking the svn trunk.


I admit that it is quite some work, but, imo, it looks manageable.

And I really would like to fix this issue, before even more people start
working on the git repository!


What are your thoughts?


ciao
a.l.e



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:46:31 +0200
From: ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch>
To: scribus at lists.scribus.net
Subject: Re: [scribus] Question about page properties
Message-ID: <20121011164631.272e5e4f at eiseiseis>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

hi greg,

> > I seem to think that one time I was experimenting with a different
> > layout and got this to work correctly but I could be wrong!! If I
> > have done something wrong in my current layout or Materpages I have
> > no idea what it is and would be pleased to know.
>
> This sounds like a job for a script. Aside from assigning a different
> Master Page, AFAIK you should just be shifting the page's contents
> left or right.
>
> A script would first make a list of all objects on the page, then one
> by one shift the X-Pos left or right according to user choice by a
> specified amount.
>
> If there is some other layout issue, there is the "Unflip" script on
> the wiki, which probably still works:
>
> http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Un-Flip_all_Selected_Items
>
> since sometimes the layout needs to be different depending on whether
> the page is Right or Left.
>
> Greg
>
> PS: I'll try playing around a bit later today. I think this should be
> a very simple script to write.

yep, it might a perfect fit for a script!

ciao
a.l.e




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:52:54 -0400
From: Mary Moore <tennesseelady21 at gmail.com>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Subject: Re: [scribus] Question about page properties
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Hello,

I too have had problems with page numbering.  I have used scribus for 2
novels.  This first I was very new to scribus for the first novel so it 
was
really trial and error.  I have just finished a second book for 383 
pages.
I think i had to create about a dozen master pages.  I too had problems
when I inserted pages where I did not want page numbers to appear.  This
threw off my master pages and the odd master was on the even and vice 
versa.

While I could insert double blank pages, it causes the book to look
uneven.  ie why is there a blank page all of a sudden.  Plus a 
commercial
printer charges per page so it also cost me money.

I really like scribus overall but admit this has been a real issue for 
me.

Thanks, Mary

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com> 
wrote:

> On 10/11/2012 03:46 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > A question to do with page properties ...
> >
> > I have a 50 page Journal that I produce every month. I use the 
"Rolling
> > Template" style of doing this, ie I take the last issue, delete all 
the
> > photos and text, re-date it and re-number it (on the Master pages) 
and
> > start to populate it with the new material. This way I retain any
> > changes I have made to the layout as I go along.
> >
> > Most months, as sections change in size, I have to add and delete 
pages.
> > My question is - how can I, (or is it possible to make Scribus),
> > re-order the Left and Right layout of the pages correctly when you 
do
> > this? If I add a page it sets the new page correctly _but_ all
> > subsequent pages are now incorrect. Likewise if I delete a page all
> > subsequent pages are incorrect and one needs to go through the whole
> > rest of the document correcting this and, worse still, re-aligning 
text
> > frames, graphics etc.
> >
> > So to paraphrase If I have a 5 page document it would be -
> > Right, Left, Right, Left, Right.
> > If I now _ADD_ a new page in the second position I get -
> > Right, Left, Left, Right, Left, Right.
> > Instead of -
> > Right, Left, Right, Left, Right, Left.
> >
> > I seem to think that one time I was experimenting with a different
> > layout and got this to work correctly but I could be wrong!! If I 
have
> > done something wrong in my current layout or Materpages I have no 
idea
> > what it is and would be pleased to know.
>
> This sounds like a job for a script. Aside from assigning a different
> Master Page, AFAIK you should just be shifting the page's contents 
left
> or right.
>
> A script would first make a list of all objects on the page, then one 
by
> one shift the X-Pos left or right according to user choice by a
> specified amount.
>
> If there is some other layout issue, there is the "Unflip" script on 
the
> wiki, which probably still works:
>
> http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Un-Flip_all_Selected_Items
>
> since sometimes the layout needs to be different depending on whether
> the page is Right or Left.
>
> Greg
>
> PS: I'll try playing around a bit later today. I think this should be 
a
> very simple script to write.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:46:08 -0400
From: Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Subject: Re: [scribus] Question about page properties
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On 10/11/2012 10:52 AM, Mary Moore wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I too have had problems with page numbering.  I have used scribus for 
2
> novels.  This first I was very new to scribus for the first novel so 
it was
> really trial and error.  I have just finished a second book for 383 
pages.
> I think i had to create about a dozen master pages.  I too had 
problems
> when I inserted pages where I did not want page numbers to appear.  
This
> threw off my master pages and the odd master was on the even and vice 
versa.
>
> While I could insert double blank pages, it causes the book to look
> uneven.  ie why is there a blank page all of a sudden.  Plus a 
commercial
> printer charges per page so it also cost me money.
>
> I really like scribus overall but admit this has been a real issue 
for me.
>

It seems like the problem should be simpler than this. It's not that
difficult, for example to have introductory material with a Roman
numeral system, then start Arabic numerals somewhere later with page 1.
If you don't want a page number, then a Master Page without it should be
possible (and you can always superimpose a frame with a white background
over the number so it's not visible), so that's only maybe 3 or 4
different MP's. A dozen seems more than necessary for a novel.

Greg




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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:10:58 -0400
From: Mary Moore <tennesseelady21 at gmail.com>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Subject: Re: [scribus] Question about page properties
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	<CAEHZ3AKY69ij0dBCjzrM73F3n7pZhQGzNSOP2yPbOkCBYmBikA at mail.gmail.com>
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That is true, I do have the arabic numbers starting on a particular 
page.
The problem comes in when I insert pages for images which I do apply as 
a
master normal. However, if I insert an odd number, ie three pages, it
throws off the page numbering.  Not sure why it does because I make 
master
pages for even and a master page for odd.  I either have to include the
"extra" page or restart the numbering with new masters.
Mary

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Gregory Pittman 
<gpittman at iglou.com>wrote:

> On 10/11/2012 10:52 AM, Mary Moore wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I too have had problems with page numbering.  I have used scribus 
for 2
> > novels.  This first I was very new to scribus for the first novel 
so it
> was
> > really trial and error.  I have just finished a second book for 383
> pages.
> > I think i had to create about a dozen master pages.  I too had 
problems
> > when I inserted pages where I did not want page numbers to appear.  
This
> > threw off my master pages and the odd master was on the even and 
vice
> versa.
> >
> > While I could insert double blank pages, it causes the book to look
> > uneven.  ie why is there a blank page all of a sudden.  Plus a 
commercial
> > printer charges per page so it also cost me money.
> >
> > I really like scribus overall but admit this has been a real issue 
for
> me.
> >
>
> It seems like the problem should be simpler than this. It's not that
> difficult, for example to have introductory material with a Roman
> numeral system, then start Arabic numerals somewhere later with page 
1.
> If you don't want a page number, then a Master Page without it should 
be
> possible (and you can always superimpose a frame with a white 
background
> over the number so it's not visible), so that's only maybe 3 or 4
> different MP's. A dozen seems more than necessary for a novel.
>
> Greg
>
>
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