[scribus] text-flow gets changed by 1.5.8
Martin Zaske LINGO
martin.zaske at lingo-benin.org
Tue Mar 1 09:44:16 UTC 2022
Craig had asked for samples. So I submitted an issue for this on the
mantis tracker and uploaded my sample .sla file. The ID is 0016763.
There is a limit of 2 MB for sample-uploads, which does not feel quite
enough when discussing actual publications. I had tried uploading my
entire document from "collect for output". Then I removed all photos and
captions, but now the bad effect is much less visible on the pages as we
had text mixed with photos.
I would love to get help now on how to proceed, as we are still in the
process of a re-design for our magazine. I need something stable, so
that I can introduce our team to the new templates and start training.
- Shall I ignore version 1.5.8 until the cause is identified (and fixed
on my system or in Scribus)?
- Any specific known reason for not using version 1.5.7 (on Windows and
Linux machines) during 2022?
Thank you,
Martin
On 18.02.2022 12:38, Craig Bradney wrote:
> This can be affected by the libraries included in the OS or the build, especially harfbuzz etc. It'd be great to get whatever sample files we can to review.
>
> Thanks
> Craig
>
> On 18/02/2022, 12:25, "Andreas Mair" <amair.sob at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I think that's what happened here, too. I've started working on a "new"
> document and noticed that some texts don't fit into the defined text boxes.
> By "new" I mean that I'll always start with the latest issue of that
> magazine and change the texts etc.
>
> For the latest issue I used 1.5.7, now I'm using 1.5.8. After reading your
> posting I will try to go back to 1.5.7 and see if everything is fine again,
> just to exclude used libs (used font didn't change).
> If it's simply a matter of running 1.5.7 or 1.5.8 I'll try to narrow the
> problem down.
>
> Best regards,
> Andreas
>
>
>
> Am Do., 17. Feb. 2022 um 18:38 Uhr schrieb Martin Zaske LINGO <
> martin.zaske at lingo-benin.org>:
>
> > Hi list
> >
> > I was getting help recently, while "hacking" a quick calendar with
> > tab-stops. I opened it a few days later, once more, and made a second
> > version. My document was made with version 1.5.7.
> >
> > This was after I had just installed version 1.5.8 (on Windows 10 pro,
> > 64bit). The layout had changed some, text inside a text-frame had
> > shifted. Since I had done some hacking (as explained in my last thread)
> > I blamed myself and quickly re-edited to make things align again.
> >
> >
> >
> > Today it happened again, but in a "good document", i.e. everything
> > vanilla, no hacking: We are redesigning our magazine, moving from A3
> > page size to A4 and making spin-off versions for smart-phone screen
> > proportions.
> >
> > I had started a sample template a few weeks ago. Now I have installed
> > version 1.5.8 and again, I notice that text in my sample article has
> > been shifted.
> >
> >
> > I am using nothing fancy, two text-frames (as two columns) next to each
> > other on each page, with links between the frames. There are photos on
> > another layer above the texts and I am using the "text flows around
> > contour line" option. I still have both versions on my machine and I
> > made two identical copies and open them at the same time: Look
> > different. Not a font issue, not a Windows issue as far as I can tell.
> >
> > After more searching and opening the two identical copies of my file
> > with swapped Scribus versions I have confirmed the problem. Now after
> > some searching I can say, it is caused by different "interpretation" of
> > my main text style by the versions.
> >
> > I am using justified text with Fira Sans, Align to Baseline Grid,
> > Optical Margins both sides, Advanced Settings: Min Space 80%, Glyph
> > extension Min 95%, Max 105% (do not yell at me, early days) and nothing
> > fancy in the Character Style tab of my style definition. The text is in
> > an African language and (automatic) hyphenation is not activated.
> >
> > So when I open my document in different versions, somehow my text via
> > style (alignment) gets rendered a little different than before. This is
> > affecting only certain lines, maybe one line every ten lines and I
> > cannot say it is "more dense" in 1.5.8, some paratexts get a little
> > longer. But the changes are still too much to allow a good work-flow.
> > And in our office we use Windows and Linux machines and all versions are
> > 1.5.x but at different stages always.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now before I spend a lot of time with research: Have other users noticed
> > that same behaviour?: Text-layout or text-flow changes between versions
> > 1.5.7 and 1.5.8 in Windows?
> >
> > Is this "allowed" behaviour in the 1.5 series? I am aware this is free
> > software and my mail is not a complaint. I was just under the
> > impressions (false?) that within one series like 1.5.x files or Scribus
> > would remain compatible.
> >
> >
> > With any normal small project, I would just quickly fix it and be done.
> > But since we are preparing an entire re-design, I am now nervous about
> > this as you can imagine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Normally I cannot easily share documents because of data protection and
> > copyrights etc. But since I have only done the very first draft-steps
> > and I only have used free photos from Pixabay, I could upload somewhere
> > if anybody would be interested to test.
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your help and greetings,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
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LINGO-Bénin
B.P. 48
Bassila
Rep. du Bénin
Tel. 00229 / 97.44.62.95
Tel. 00229 / 62.58.04.48
Organisation Non Gouvernementale
Decret No. 2001-234 du 12 juillet 2001
No. d'enregistrement 6/033/P-SG STCCD-DCDI-ONG
du 05 septembre 2012
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