[scribus] text-flow gets changed by 1.5.8
Silvain Dupertuis
silvain-dupertuis at bluewin.ch
Tue Mar 1 10:33:27 UTC 2022
For large files or projects, I suppose you could put them in any kind of cloud and give
access by a link instead of uploading the whole thing to the mantis tracker...
Silvain
Le 01.03.22 à 10:44, Martin Zaske LINGO a écrit :
> Craig had asked for samples. So I submitted an issue for this on the
> mantis tracker and uploaded my sample .sla file. The ID is 0016763.
>
> There is a limit of 2 MB for sample-uploads, which does not feel quite
> enough when discussing actual publications. I had tried uploading my
> entire document from "collect for output". Then I removed all photos and
> captions, but now the bad effect is much less visible on the pages as we
> had text mixed with photos.
>
>
>
> I would love to get help now on how to proceed, as we are still in the
> process of a re-design for our magazine. I need something stable, so
> that I can introduce our team to the new templates and start training.
>
>
> - Shall I ignore version 1.5.8 until the cause is identified (and fixed
> on my system or in Scribus)?
>
> - Any specific known reason for not using version 1.5.7 (on Windows and
> Linux machines) during 2022?
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
> On 18.02.2022 12:38, Craig Bradney wrote:
>> This can be affected by the libraries included in the OS or the build, especially harfbuzz etc. It'd be great to get whatever sample files we can to review.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Craig
>>
>> On 18/02/2022, 12:25, "Andreas Mair"<amair.sob at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I think that's what happened here, too. I've started working on a "new"
>> document and noticed that some texts don't fit into the defined text boxes.
>> By "new" I mean that I'll always start with the latest issue of that
>> magazine and change the texts etc.
>>
>> For the latest issue I used 1.5.7, now I'm using 1.5.8. After reading your
>> posting I will try to go back to 1.5.7 and see if everything is fine again,
>> just to exclude used libs (used font didn't change).
>> If it's simply a matter of running 1.5.7 or 1.5.8 I'll try to narrow the
>> problem down.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>>
>> Am Do., 17. Feb. 2022 um 18:38 Uhr schrieb Martin Zaske LINGO <
>> martin.zaske at lingo-benin.org>:
>>
>> > Hi list
>> >
>> > I was getting help recently, while "hacking" a quick calendar with
>> > tab-stops. I opened it a few days later, once more, and made a second
>> > version. My document was made with version 1.5.7.
>> >
>> > This was after I had just installed version 1.5.8 (on Windows 10 pro,
>> > 64bit). The layout had changed some, text inside a text-frame had
>> > shifted. Since I had done some hacking (as explained in my last thread)
>> > I blamed myself and quickly re-edited to make things align again.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Today it happened again, but in a "good document", i.e. everything
>> > vanilla, no hacking: We are redesigning our magazine, moving from A3
>> > page size to A4 and making spin-off versions for smart-phone screen
>> > proportions.
>> >
>> > I had started a sample template a few weeks ago. Now I have installed
>> > version 1.5.8 and again, I notice that text in my sample article has
>> > been shifted.
>> >
>> >
>> > I am using nothing fancy, two text-frames (as two columns) next to each
>> > other on each page, with links between the frames. There are photos on
>> > another layer above the texts and I am using the "text flows around
>> > contour line" option. I still have both versions on my machine and I
>> > made two identical copies and open them at the same time: Look
>> > different. Not a font issue, not a Windows issue as far as I can tell.
>> >
>> > After more searching and opening the two identical copies of my file
>> > with swapped Scribus versions I have confirmed the problem. Now after
>> > some searching I can say, it is caused by different "interpretation" of
>> > my main text style by the versions.
>> >
>> > I am using justified text with Fira Sans, Align to Baseline Grid,
>> > Optical Margins both sides, Advanced Settings: Min Space 80%, Glyph
>> > extension Min 95%, Max 105% (do not yell at me, early days) and nothing
>> > fancy in the Character Style tab of my style definition. The text is in
>> > an African language and (automatic) hyphenation is not activated.
>> >
>> > So when I open my document in different versions, somehow my text via
>> > style (alignment) gets rendered a little different than before. This is
>> > affecting only certain lines, maybe one line every ten lines and I
>> > cannot say it is "more dense" in 1.5.8, some paratexts get a little
>> > longer. But the changes are still too much to allow a good work-flow.
>> > And in our office we use Windows and Linux machines and all versions are
>> > 1.5.x but at different stages always.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Now before I spend a lot of time with research: Have other users noticed
>> > that same behaviour?: Text-layout or text-flow changes between versions
>> > 1.5.7 and 1.5.8 in Windows?
>> >
>> > Is this "allowed" behaviour in the 1.5 series? I am aware this is free
>> > software and my mail is not a complaint. I was just under the
>> > impressions (false?) that within one series like 1.5.x files or Scribus
>> > would remain compatible.
>> >
>> >
>> > With any normal small project, I would just quickly fix it and be done.
>> > But since we are preparing an entire re-design, I am now nervous about
>> > this as you can imagine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Normally I cannot easily share documents because of data protection and
>> > copyrights etc. But since I have only done the very first draft-steps
>> > and I only have used free photos from Pixabay, I could upload somewhere
>> > if anybody would be interested to test.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you for your help and greetings,
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> >
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